That really sucks ...

I decided long ago, that I would buy a daily reliable car for a daily drive and then just have my performance car be a weekend type car.

You may be able to hone up the cylinders get some decent pistons and stock crank cheap and put it back together.

 

It's going to be parted out and I'm putting an Iron 6.0 back in it, then the car is getting sold. My wife and I need a house worse than I need this car so that's first priority. Once we get back on our feet I will probably come back to the scene and look for an f-body of some sort.

 

Hell! This is what a typical American should be like!. Helping other Americans OUT!!! You go man

 

Im an auto mechanic not a grammar/english teacher thats nice that all u have to offer this thread is a ******* comment bashing me i have not made any personal attacks i just was questionaing the build quality and honestness of the company with suck a coastly motor that had a short life. So take your shittalking elsewhare which then again this is probly all you have to do at your office job waiting on your car to be built by other people that you hope know what there doing. I just dont see it being right that he spent so much money thinking he was doing it all right and had a catosrophic failure and no support to get back on the road and an empty savings account especially on his daily driver.

 

well i should read all posts before i post

 

When I worked in the OE auto repair side of the industry, I didn't understand high performance warranty situations either. You offer a one year warranty on brakes, because Bendix or whichever brake mfg offers it. It is built into the cost of the part at every parts store out there, and they have agreements with the mfg's that a certain percentage of brakes will fail and need replaced under warranty. They don't even have to know it was a pad issue, and you can get a brand new set. The mark-up there is great, no doubt! Also, the number of people who save their repair shop documentation (if required) is slim. So, out of all those customers out there that have valid warranty on parts and labor, only a small percentage of them will be eligible for warranty repair. Does that make the average repair shops like the one you work in criminals? NO.

But in high performance, the margin isn't there to begin with. If you could read behind the scenes on this forum and others, it's a cut throat business trying to get online shoppers to buy from you. You have to have either less expensive pricing (less margin), better service and tech help to put you above the average guy selling parts from mom's basement, more overhead so you don't loose sells due to out of stock parts, etc. Mfg's also don't assume there is a certain percentage that will fail, and factor that into the cost of the part. They don't offer 1 year warranties (most are considered generous for offering 90 days!) on their race parts.

Don't take that all the wrong way: I'm not talking down the small repair shop by any means...I've worked that side of the industry for years! It's certainly respectable and hard work in my book. But you really have to work the other side before comparing this situation to your independent repair shop!

Jason, I understand where you're at trying to get into a home and all for your family. I respect that 100% and have been there myself in the not so recent past. I'm glad you are happy with the service I've/we've provided. Even though I have more bad days than many and have a shorter fuse than I'd like, I really do try to make shopping at Texas Speed a pleasant experience from shopping to follow up down the road. I know how badly it sucks to have this happen to your investment (I've been there too when I was on the OE repair side of the game).

Good luck getting your GTO back on the road. Know that anything we can do to help you meet your goals, whatever they may be, we will be glad to do so.

 

Maybe I missed it in the 8 pages, but who changed the oil? You or a shop? The reason that I ask is that after 6,000 miles this should not of came apart all of a sudden. When I worked at a auto parts chain as a commercial manager for them I sold alot of engines to quick lube shops. They would forget to add the oil and then after the customer drove off a block (maybe two), bang, bye bye engine. Sometimes I've seen them fire one up in the shop to move it off and forget to put the drain plug back in or the lube tech would scramble to kill it and try to just add oil for the cover up.

 

That's probably the smartest decision you could you make. You got have a lot of FU money when you do these performance car builds. You get one thing fixed and some other **** item goes wrong.

My car is the money pit. In a couple of more years the deals will be even better than now. It's a lot cheaper to buy a modded car than to have to pay for it from scratch.

 

I have a local shop, that the business I work for uses, do it. I always, and I mean ALWAYS double check their work before I leave the parking lot. I check the oil, look under the car at the filter and listen to the car before I drive off. If I had the time, and a place that wasn't below 20 degrees, I would do it myself.

 

Good for you b/c most people don't. But that still doesn't mean that the car wasn't "dry" fired in the shop sorry to say. Our store there in Denver was real close to a Jiffylube and had a lot of customers tell a few stories of said instances. Things seamed to be ok for a week, maybe two, then the rods would start knocking. Maybe this didn't happen, but it just sounded way too familar to me.......

 

Well the one thing I can say is that I stand at the little window and watch them change it usually. Then when they get the plug out (it's magnetic) I go inspect it for debris, and then I let them finish. I am very cautious when it comes to my vehicles. I used to be one of the managers in a Firestone about 4 years ago and I know how human some of the techs can be.

 

There's no warranty on this shortblock? I thought that was pretty standard. I know Katech offers like a 3yr warranty. Or is that only vs part failure?

 

Hey Goober, you sound like an idiot. If I were to judge your skills by the way you present yourself, I would not let you put air in my tires.

 

Maybe you should read their warranty:

http://www.katechengines.com/street_...20Warranty.pdf

1 year, 12K miles on Sealed Engines that they install , I don't see anything on shortblocks though. I don't know of anyone that warranties shortblocks, being that there is no control in who, how or where the end product is finish assembled and whether there were oiling issues from the start, or beginning with the last oil change.

This pretty much covers it all, this is similar to the paperwork supplied by most engine shops:

 

I asked because in a GMHTP among the stack I keep by the toilet (some for reading, some should have been used for wiping).. there were something along the lines of 20+ stroker shortblocks profiled, and under the "warranty" area, 3 of them offered a 1 year or longer warranty.

 

Your a stupid pile of **** **** you i wouldnt put air in your ******* tires id ******* **** in your cold air intake for your heater/ a/c your a stupid **** no one else even TSP said anything bad about what i said so **** off take your shity *** vette and drive off a bridge........... BTW thanx for your side of the story TSP i guess everyone does it different.

 

Feel better??

 

Fact of the matter is performance based engines can't be warrantied. It's not at all the same as auto repair. In the auto repair industry you replace moms minivan motor, for her to lug the kids around. In the performance world, you build a motor for someone to go out and make 40-140 mph videos bouncing off the rev limiter.

If everyone warrantied their performance motors they build, no one would be in business very long.

Face it, even the highest level of performance engines still break. NAZCAR, F1, etc. If those guys break their motors, Joe Blow sure is capable of blowing up his forged LS motor.

Even the parts used in said performance engines are only warrantied for defects in material and craftsmanship. Once installed and run, the warranty is out the window.

People need to understand a little more about the warranty side of this stuff before plopping down the cash, building their car, and then thrashing the snot out of it.

 

I just wish I would have actually gotten to "thrash" on mine. I got 3 track passes and a couple of WOT runs for HP Tuners logs. I guess this is the parts where "**** happens".

 

Sounds reasonable just seems there should be more support but i guess when it comes to toys your own your own if **** breaks. Well Good luck with the house and getting rid of your car hope it all works out.