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Old 01-23-2009, 09:02 AM
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Default Anyone familiar with this oil cooler adapter?

It is made by PowrMax. Here is the link:

http://powrmax.com/PowrBlock%20Oil%2...20Adapter.html

Just curious if the LPE or ESC is worth the extra $30. TIA.
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Yep, very nice adapter! Bruce Melton did his homework when he designed it. Highly recommended.
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Looks like a nice peice, I run the LPE personaly but there are others as well.
A customer just sent me a remote location ( has provisions for all the same as the cooler) unit that is pretty nice too if you go to a different pan.
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Thanks.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
<snip> A customer just sent me a remote location ( has provisions for all the same as the cooler) unit that is pretty nice too if you go to a different pan.
Can you post or email a picture of this?
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I'll snap a few and post it for all to see, looks like a very nice unit
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is an oil cooler realy needed?
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Originally Posted by Big Bird WS6
is an oil cooler realy needed?


cant hurt, they come stock on pontiac G8 gt, and on the new camaro
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Originally Posted by Big Bird WS6
is an oil cooler realy needed?
Ohh no, not this debate again! 99BlancoSS and I have debated this subject in the past.

IMHO and experience, for 97% of street and HPDE cars - NO.
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I have the LPE, but that really looks like a quality piece and for $30 less I'd buy it.

Before I installed a 36 pass oil cooler my oil temp would go to ~275*, after the install ~200*. Most guys look at their coolant temperature and figure they are safe, not true.
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The main points of the debate betweem z06 and I was the fact that oil is meant to run at a certain temperature. If it doesnt get warm enough it isnt lubricating properly. I run a radiator with a built in oil cooler ( Ron Davis) but carry 7 and 14 plate Ron davis heat exchangers that peope use for cooling their oil and PS fluid as well as trans and rear fluids.
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Originally Posted by bigdsz
I have the LPE, but that really looks like a quality piece and for $30 less I'd buy it.

Before I installed a 36 pass oil cooler my oil temp would go to ~275*, after the install ~200*. Most guys look at their coolant temperature and figure they are safe, not true.
275 degrees oil temp isn't bad if your running the right oil and it's protecting the engine. Just looking at oil temp doesn't give you the whole story either and should not be THE singular data point used to determine IF an oil cooler is needed.

200 degrees MAXIMUM oil temp is too low.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
The main points of the debate betweem z06 and I was the fact that oil is meant to run at a certain temperature. If it doesnt get warm enough it isnt lubricating properly. I run a radiator with a built in oil cooler ( Ron Davis) but carry 7 and 14 plate Ron davis heat exchangers that peope use for cooling their oil and PS fluid as well as trans and rear fluids.
the radiator style oil coolers keep oil temps close to water temps so you don't have the low oil temp issues.
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The ideal oil temps for Synthetic lubed LSs is ~200-260f, IMO. The less time below or above, the better, thus most street cars are fine under normal conditions. If the water temp is running hot, the stand alone air>oil cooler probably won't keep up during sustained hard running. It is great for stabilizing oil temps during hard bursts but once the internal components heat soak higher, you need a higher capacity radiator with internal oil cooler, which can regulate both oil and water temps.HO engines generate more heat. The fluid temps follow each other, reflecting the regulating capacity.
My car, probably typical, runs with good oil and water temps on the street but after about 10 min of track time all bets were off with oil>air cooler. Summer track oil temps >290f. (WI)
A real R D, Dewitts (or like) high capacity radiator with internal oil cooler fixes, a real problem.
IMO,
Bruce
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Originally Posted by See5
The ideal oil temps for Synthetic lubed LSs is ~200-260f, IMO. The less time below or above, the better, thus most street cars are fine under normal conditions. If the water temp is running hot, the stand alone air>oil cooler probably won't keep up during sustained hard running. It is great for stabilizing oil temps during hard bursts but once the internal components heat soak higher, you need a higher capacity radiator with internal oil cooler, which can regulate both oil and water temps.HO engines generate more heat. The fluid temps follow each other, reflecting the regulating capacity.
My car runs with good oil and water temps on the street but after about 10 min of track time all bets were off with oil>air cooler. Summer track oil temps >290f. (WI)
A real R D, Dewitts (or like) high capacity radiator with internal oil cooler fixes, a real problem.
IMO,
Bruce
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Thanks Bruce, great info.
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Here are those pics:








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Originally Posted by Big Bird WS6
is an oil cooler realy needed?

Last time at the track, oil temps were 295* before I backed it down, with oil pressure getting below 35 lbs. With at $10k motor, a $300 oil cooler is pretty cheap insurance. I am plumbing in a thermostat to make sure it runs at the correct temp for DD.

99BlancoSS - that is a nice looking adapter.
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The remote adapters, particularly that one are relatively easy to install. On Corvettes you just need to make sure that the oil filter does not become the lowest hanging (first hit) under the car.

WADDISME,

Based on what you just stated, and regardless of what adapter you use, I don't think you will have the desired result without a new radiator with IOC. Your cooler thermo may be wide open but you won't be able to lower the oil temp significantly.
Not for track use. Even with my 402 the external cooler in front of the radiator just delayed the >295 temp for a lap or two.
Believe me, I know first hand, and I don't sell radiators.

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Originally Posted by WADDISME
99BlancoSS - that is a nice looking adapter.
I agree, never seen one like that before.
-Joel


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