N/A 434 LSX Build
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I would rather not call anyone out. The crank was a bad part and the reason why the motor blew apart. Too much crank end play and no thrust walls on the main journal. It should have been caught when built. It was a scat crank, and garbage. But the piston to head contact is definitely poor workmanship, and thicker gaskets should have been used. It was overall a mess especially because it had gasket sealing issues as well, and I've never put any power adders through this and tuning is great and constantly monitored and adjusted myself. Never saw any ping or detonation etc...
Regardless, the new build is in progress
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I would love too, but I have too many odds and ends that I also need to take care of (ie, new starter/crank sensor/harness parts/textralia clutch rebuild/etc...) that is eating away. Not the first time I've done this so I know all the extra things can add up quickly and don't want to tap myself out before the build is finished. Stock LS7 heads flow plenty for a not-so-radical setup thats being built. Unless someone wants to offer their porting service? haha.
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Street car with some drag use. Looking for an easy 550 rwhp and stock drive ability, basically put some slicks on, drive to the track run 10's then go cruising. Should be attainable with the new setup and cam compared to my last motor. May consider running E85 since its less than a 1.40 here in town, just have to figure out how to tune for ethanol.
Street car with some drag use. Looking for an easy 550 rwhp and stock drive ability, basically put some slicks on, drive to the track run 10's then go cruising. Should be attainable with the new setup and cam compared to my last motor. May consider running E85 since its less than a 1.40 here in town, just have to figure out how to tune for ethanol.
PM'ed you a video of it idling and revving. Maybe they can help you with the E85 tuning.
Street car with some drag use. Looking for an easy 550 rwhp and stock drive ability, basically put some slicks on, drive to the track run 10's then go cruising. Should be attainable with the new setup and cam compared to my last motor. May consider running E85 since its less than a 1.40 here in town, just have to figure out how to tune for ethanol.
think 13:1. It would make killer power and you would still be on "pump Gas"
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You should contact Wait4me Performance, they're in Warsaw, Indiana, they're master tuners, I think thats relatively close to you. He's going to tune my 454ci. He just recently finished a 454ci LSX iron with the Harrop intake and he tuned it for E85 fuel. Made 752 hp. Idles very nice and is totally a streetable engine, idling at 600 rpms.
PM'ed you a video of it idling and revving. Maybe they can help you with the E85 tuning.
PM'ed you a video of it idling and revving. Maybe they can help you with the E85 tuning.
Could I get a copy of that video?
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I dont think there is any point running E85 unless you crank the compression up.
Otherwise it uses way more fuel and power output is less.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency
Otherwise it uses way more fuel and power output is less.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency
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I dont think there is any point running E85 unless you crank the compression up.
Otherwise it uses way more fuel and power output is less.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency
Otherwise it uses way more fuel and power output is less.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency
Awesome. Looks like a fun build. Good see people near by with TA's making some really nice power. Im sure this build will go alot better. I talk with Jori Sullivan all the time. He's another guy that was at W2W. All really nice guys.
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You've got good people and good stuff so you should be really safe but those Oliver speedway rods are heavy as hell though if that's really what you have! That's the only part I don't like. Also some of those take out Katech cranks have some weird journals and offsets so watch out if you have any of that stuff. The real race stuff is sometimes way different than the consumer stuff. Been there and done that a lot!
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You've got good people and good stuff so you should be really safe but those Oliver speedway rods are heavy as hell though if that's really what you have! That's the only part I don't like. Also some of those take out Katech cranks have some weird journals and offsets so watch out if you have any of that stuff. The real race stuff is sometimes way different than the consumer stuff. Been there and done that a lot!
Not sure about any take out Katech cranks? The rotating assembly thats on its way is all brand new stuff. I'm sure Billy will be on a lookout for anything funny when building the motor. Hopefully it will all work well in together!
What are some other detriments to having the heavy rod other than parasitic loss?
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NO just the recipricating weight is like having a little heavier flywheel. It will be strong as hell with your parts and I know Billy is a great engine builder as well. In an auto car the rotating parts don't matter as much as a manual car that has an engine that rises and falls a lot on the shifts. On those deals an aluminum or Ti rod and light stuff makes you faster by a good amount. On a big converter steady state engine it;s not a big change at all. You'll be fine.
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NO just the recipricating weight is like having a little heavier flywheel. It will be strong as hell with your parts and I know Billy is a great engine builder as well. In an auto car the rotating parts don't matter as much as a manual car that has an engine that rises and falls a lot on the shifts. On those deals an aluminum or Ti rod and light stuff makes you faster by a good amount. On a big converter steady state engine it;s not a big change at all. You'll be fine.
Couldn't you use a lighter flywheel and clutch to offset some of the additional weight of the rotating assembly?
I know I've been driving the hell out of the 402 that Billy built for me, and mid 10's NA in a 3500 lb car. I don't think you'll have any trouble meeting your goals. He knows what he is doing.. Let us know how that turns out.
