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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 11:41 PM
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how much can you mill off a set of l92's??
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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We usually don't go more than .030" off of those heads. Anything more then that and you will start to eat into the flow of the head.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnJanz@Texas-Speed
We usually don't go more than .030" off of those heads. Anything more then that and you will start to eat into the flow of the head.
can you explain WHY milling more than .030" "eats into flow"?
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 06:28 PM
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i cant explain why but i know my engine builder said the exact same thing. he only took off .025 incase i need to take off a lil more in the future
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 3pedals
can you explain WHY milling more than .030" "eats into flow"?
When you mill heads you decrease the area in the chamber therefore decreasing flow.
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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What size is the chamber after milling .030?
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnJanz@Texas-Speed
When you mill heads you decrease the area in the chamber therefore decreasing flow.
That doesnt make sense John, you'll have be be more specific as to what you believe would cause a loss of flow from flat milling a head.
Simply decreasing the volume in the chamber by flat milling, should have no relevance to port flow, or flow past the valve seat curtain area into the cylinder.
I could be wrong, and if so , please go into detail about why I'm wrong.
Thanks

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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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I am really curious as to why also... I know a few guys that are .030 to .045 running faster times than most...
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mine are cut .042
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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because you have to realize, the chamber is an extension of the intake runner ,so changing the shape of the chamber,can have an effect on the flow of a cylinder head
thats why as heads get larger valves or go up in runner size,(for ex tfs heads in 220,235,245 etc)you generally see an increase in chamber size and bore adaptors used to flow them which all help to unshroud the intake valve as much as possible
its amazing when you move a head over one way or another, on a flow bench the results you sometimes will see
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Old Jan 31, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by billyflantos
how much can you mill off a set of l92's??
man, how do you make that lq4 run that good?
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by crossbreed383
because you have to realize, the chamber is an extension of the intake runner ,so changing the shape of the chamber,can have an effect on the flow of a cylinder head
thats why as heads get larger valves or go up in runner size,(for ex tfs heads in 220,235,245 etc)you generally see an increase in chamber size and bore adaptors used to flow them which all help to unshroud the intake valve as much as possible
its amazing when you move a head over one way or another, on a flow bench the results you sometimes will see
The EMC guys use the smallest chamber possible to allow the valve to be unshrouded as soon as possible in the lift of the valve.

Are you saying the flow is effected only if the head milled vs. being cast with a small chamber?

My understanding is that small chambers have better short turn flow.
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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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if the port is designed to work with a certain style chamber ,from the get go,then the shape of the bowl,seat,valve job ,port etc, can be designed to have the correct shape for the intended chamber size
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