N/A LSX whats it take to get 900-1000 hp
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N/A LSX whats it take to get 900-1000 hp
I just purchased a 2002 camaro pro mod car without engine. it came with a 3spd lenco automatic trans. My plan was to run a twin 88 setup but Iam kinda thinking about starting out N/A first to get friendly with the car before getting that much hp. So my question is whats it take? wouldnt be afraid of building a 9000 rpm engine like the SAM team did. It would be on alcohol. tell me if iam on track her or not. looking for 900hp and up.
RHS BLOCK 4.125 bore
DR or C5R heads
jesle rockers
13.5 14.1 comp
sheet metal intake.
solid roller cam.
jesle belt drive.
calis crank.
calis rods.
RHS BLOCK 4.125 bore
DR or C5R heads
jesle rockers
13.5 14.1 comp
sheet metal intake.
solid roller cam.
jesle belt drive.
calis crank.
calis rods.
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I just purchased a 2002 camaro pro mod car without engine. it came with a 3spd lenco automatic trans. My plan was to run a twin 88 setup but Iam kinda thinking about starting out N/A first to get friendly with the car before getting that much hp. So my question is whats it take? wouldnt be afraid of building a 9000 rpm engine like the SAM team did. It would be on alcohol. tell me if iam on track her or not. looking for 900hp and up.
RHS BLOCK 4.125 bore
DR or C5R heads
jesle rockers
13.5 14.1 comp
sheet metal intake.
solid roller cam.
jesle belt drive.
calis crank.
calis rods.
RHS BLOCK 4.125 bore
DR or C5R heads
jesle rockers
13.5 14.1 comp
sheet metal intake.
solid roller cam.
jesle belt drive.
calis crank.
calis rods.
MOZEZ heads
Jesel or T&D system
15:1 compression
sheetmetal dual T/B intake
Solid roller
Callies Magnum XL
GRP alum rods
Would be my list for a max effort N/A setup
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If your ultimate goal is to go Turbo, I would start with that set-up and tune it back until you got used to it. Otherwise your going to have to buy a lot of NA parts that won't be good for a turbo set-up. Big NA power likes low drag bearings, light weight internals, etc. while a turbo (especially Pro Mod) needs beef and plenty of it. I would set them up totally different.
BTW our turbo engines spin over 9K with the heavy components if that's what your looking for. Either way, it takes a very good oiling system to make it live at that RPM and nothing is cheap.
It would be fun to see one of these big Drag Radial turbo engines in a lightweight Pro Mod instead of pushing 3300- 3400 #'s into the low 7's. You can go deep into the 6's with the same power and the slicks would help enormously.
Sounds like a fun project. Post pics.
BTW our turbo engines spin over 9K with the heavy components if that's what your looking for. Either way, it takes a very good oiling system to make it live at that RPM and nothing is cheap.
It would be fun to see one of these big Drag Radial turbo engines in a lightweight Pro Mod instead of pushing 3300- 3400 #'s into the low 7's. You can go deep into the 6's with the same power and the slicks would help enormously.
Sounds like a fun project. Post pics.
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If your ultimate goal is to go Turbo, I would start with that set-up and tune it back until you got used to it. Otherwise your going to have to buy a lot of NA parts that won't be good for a turbo set-up. Big NA power likes low drag bearings, light weight internals, etc. while a turbo (especially Pro Mod) needs beef and plenty of it. I would set them up totally different.
BTW our turbo engines spin over 9K with the heavy components if that's what your looking for. Either way, it takes a very good oiling system to make it live at that RPM and nothing is cheap.
It would be fun to see one of these big Drag Radial turbo engines in a lightweight Pro Mod instead of pushing 3300- 3400 #'s into the low 7's. You can go deep into the 6's with the same power and the slicks would help enormously.
Sounds like a fun project. Post pics.
BTW our turbo engines spin over 9K with the heavy components if that's what your looking for. Either way, it takes a very good oiling system to make it live at that RPM and nothing is cheap.
It would be fun to see one of these big Drag Radial turbo engines in a lightweight Pro Mod instead of pushing 3300- 3400 #'s into the low 7's. You can go deep into the 6's with the same power and the slicks would help enormously.
Sounds like a fun project. Post pics.
Exactly, look at Camaroandreas on here. He has been 6.74 on his monte carlo chassis and he's going bigger now so we should see low 6's in his future.
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I got the rest of the summer,fall,winter,spring I guess to just go the turbo route and be done with it. I'am looking for track numbers in the mid to high 6's the car had a big block hemi in it and thats right where it ran before. We had fig the race weight to be around 2250lbs with driver. Thats alum race block with twin 88 turbos and of course all the pluming and cooler. It was around 2500lbs with the big block and blower.
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Why don't you just build a turbo kit to go on the car and just throw a junk motor like an LQ4/9 or an LS2 and then build a nasty setup to go on the same kit.
You could probably get something like a TTi kit since you have all the room and run a big single turbo on a stock motor. Just to get it rolling and have fun. Then make the plans for the "KILLER" to go in.
You could probably get something like a TTi kit since you have all the room and run a big single turbo on a stock motor. Just to get it rolling and have fun. Then make the plans for the "KILLER" to go in.
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If the car was set up for big block I''m not sure why you would want to change to an LS. If you are only looking for 900 NA you could just buy a crate engine and get it done with pump gas for less investment than with a LS based engine.
Are there many guys using LS based engines in Pro-Mod cars? With turbo cars being allowed 540 cubes it would seem hard to compete with a hemi headed big block.
Are there many guys using LS based engines in Pro-Mod cars? With turbo cars being allowed 540 cubes it would seem hard to compete with a hemi headed big block.
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I just purchased a 2002 camaro pro mod car without engine. it came with a 3spd lenco automatic trans. My plan was to run a twin 88 setup but Iam kinda thinking about starting out N/A first to get friendly with the car before getting that much hp. So my question is whats it take? wouldnt be afraid of building a 9000 rpm engine like the SAM team did. It would be on alcohol. tell me if iam on track her or not. looking for 900hp and up.
RHS BLOCK 4.125 bore
DR or C5R heads
jesle rockers
13.5 14.1 comp
sheet metal intake.
solid roller cam.
jesle belt drive.
calis crank.
calis rods.
RHS BLOCK 4.125 bore
DR or C5R heads
jesle rockers
13.5 14.1 comp
sheet metal intake.
solid roller cam.
jesle belt drive.
calis crank.
calis rods.
Drop a BBC in there for LESS than half the price and make 1000 HP ""EASY"" on pump gas and be WAY WAY WAY more reliable than an LSx set up could ever be. The BBC would last for years and years. LSx will explode any day.
$13,500.....1000 HP
http://www.shafiroff.com/sportsman/598_lowdeck.asp
$19,950.....1145 HP
http://www.shafiroff.com/sportsman/615_1145.asp
BADASS......$17,975.....1,400 HP
http://www.shafiroff.com/nos/565_1400.asp
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The amount of work you will have to put into an lsx engine to spin twin 88's would be far more than building a bbc. Imo I would build a 500 inch bbc tt with a set of profiler 174x heads and you could run mid 6's and never hurt the thing.
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Check out Nelson Race Engines. They build high end TT LSX stuff that put down 1500 to 2500 hp, depending on the fuel you want to run. They have built many nitromethane LSX engines. Gonna cost you $30k plus!
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Look at Sonny's Racing Engines for some rather interesting BBC ideas. Their SAR 1005, with 2,150 na horsepower is pretty much unbelievable. They list a 903 inch engine with 2700 hp (with nitrous) set up for Pro-Mod as well. Not cheap at $90K+ but this is not a cheap class to be competing in.