Sail Hatan

hey guys. ive spent countless hours trying to figure out what i want out of a cam, and theres just too many ls1 choices. heres my factors.

3800 stall. plan on keeping it because i love it.
i will be getting 3.73s.
the car is a daily driver, dont want a cam where im swapping spings every few thousand miles
Id like "decent" drivability, at least some lope as well.

I was thinking something like a 228, 230 camshaft. with my LT1 car it was so easy. not many choices, haha.

Id LOVE to make 400 rwhp. i dont know if its possible with the stall, but at 400 or as close as possible is my quest.

i currently have tsp 1 7/8 headers, will have tsp duals before i buy the cam, slp air lid, p&p tb and ls6 intake. will be picking up UD pulley as well.

if i cant hit 400 N/A with a decent cam and the 3800 stall, what will it take? fast intake/tb? 243 heads?

is there power to be had by switching to an lq9?

thanks guys, just looking for suggestions on a fun set up.

Tainted

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228R with .650 double springs. Happy medium and If you added 243 heads you could get a little more out of it. Now bear in mind with that stall your dyno numbers are gonna be a lot lower so dont hope to see that number

Fastdriver1992

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i'd like to see u go with this camshaft, http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EDL-2216/

i put it in my friends 04 gto and it made 380rwhp on 1 3/4 pacsetters full exhaust and 243 heads and a conservative tune. used stock yellow beehive springs and stock pushrod length through a 6 speed

i can see you making 400rwhp with this no problem with alittle hand porting on the heads and that underdrive pulley, and yes this car was a DD

Found an idle video

99Bluz28

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According to Edelbrock that cam is designed for CARBURETOR ONLY, not EFI.

Fastdriver1992

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yes but i dont see y that would be, never had a problem with it

99Bluz28

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Wow, those are some really tame lobes I really don't think it would be an issue either just a fyi. I would think a Comp Cam with Xtreme RPM or Xtreme RPM High Lift lobes with almost identical specs would make more power and still be easy on the valve springs. Better yet use LXL lobes and run a 230/230 or a 230/234.

Sail Hatan

Hmmmmm ok. im gunna look into those. **** sorry i meant to post this in gen III internal...

Sail Hatan

can any provide a link to decent 230/230 cam?

sokr915

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Check out the the streetsweeper ht by new era performance(228/232). I just installed one in my car but have yet to get it tuned. It feels really good for not having a tune. Hopefully in the next few weeks Ill either have hp tuners or take it to a dyno.


cam only
http://www.neweraperformanceparts.co...mart&Itemid=54

cam kit
http://www.neweraperformanceparts.co...mart&Itemid=54

Sail Hatan

whats the difference between the regular sweetsweeper and the high torque version? does one make more hp that the other? or is it strictly a torque thing?

Grr

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streetsweeper HT is the best cam on the market for stock heads IMO. great driveability and huge midrange power

Sail Hatan

How about if I step up to some prc 5.3 heads? Or some ported 243s? Will it still be a good choice?

Sail Hatan

Also what kind of rwhp is there to be gained with the street sweeper ht?

sokr915

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Take a look at this

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...0hp-409tq.html

Sail Hatan

That's awesome. I'm thinking the street sweeper HT and some
Ported 243s will put me right where I want to be?

Sales@Tick

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I can spec you out a cam that will make 400rwhp through a locked 4l60e.

It will be slightly bigger than the cams you have mentioned, but not by much.

I like 98BluZ28's suggestion though to go with Extreme RPM and/or LXL lobes.

I would personally do a 230/236 .609"/.578" 112+2 camshaft for that goal or our Elite Series Stage 2 for LS1/LS2/LQ4/LQ9 which is a 234/240 .61x"/.58x 113+4 profile.

The 230/236 would most likely be a solid 390rwhp cam maybe 395 on a happy dynojet, but the 234/240 would get you real close if not there.

Added: both of those cams will have a nice sound to them with a definite lope at idle.

Sail Hatan

That would be awesome! would i have driveablilty issues with a 234/240 cam? is it gunna kill valve springs? I dont have good enought cam knowledge to spec one out myself.

Sales@Tick

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The duration of the camshaft really only has a very negligible effect on valve spring life. How aggressive the lobe is and how quickly the cam accelerates through it's duration and lift curves will determine valve spring life. That and the weight of your valve-train play more of a part than its size.

If you have a 3800 stall and 3.73's and a good tuner I don't see drivability suffering tremendously. When you go to an aftermarket camshaft there will be some slight nuances, but that is just the name of the game when you're trying to shoot for a personal goal that is above average.

We can always back down the IVO event to gain some drivability back with a smaller intake duration by using a 230* intake lobe and taking some overlap out of the cam either from the exhaust duration or by widening the LSA.

All that said I still don't think you'll have any drivability issues with a good tune.

Sail Hatan

Cool! Now I just gotta have a cam of that nature ground for me.

99Bluz28

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With the 3800 stall and the 234(lxl)/240(X rpm HL) 113+4, or with all LXL lobes a 234/238 113+4 it should work great, and I would think probably meet you goal. Another plus is that your valve springs should last a good while too with using those lobes!
IMO, contact Martian@Tick and get the ball rolling!