Generation IV Internal Engine 2005-2014 LS2 | LS3 | LS7 | L92 | LS9

L76/L92 low on power

Old 10-24-2012, 06:17 PM
  #1  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
work in progress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 918
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default L76/L92 low on power

Just finished the install, put it on the dyno and was very disappointed with the results. Ported LS3 heads, high compression 6.0 with an EPS 232/242 cam and only made 435/409. It idles fine, but will shake pretty good and then smooth out a little through out the pull. None of my other motors have ever had a shake like that. My tuner seems to think I have a cylinder out, but I cant find anything. I did swap the a and c pins on the cam sensor so the tach would work. I attached the dyno sheet to see if you guys may have some input. what really baffled me was the tq dip at the start of every pull.
Attached Thumbnails L76/L92 low on power-scan0001.jpg  
Old 10-24-2012, 07:40 PM
  #2  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (9)
 
85MikeTPI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Newark, DE
Posts: 2,172
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Did you datalog during the run? During a WOT blast?

Does the PT4000 in your sig indicate a 4000 stall converter?
Old 10-24-2012, 09:54 PM
  #3  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (5)
 
gnfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NM
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

How much piston to valve clearance did you have with that cam?
Old 10-24-2012, 10:46 PM
  #4  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
work in progress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 918
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by gnfan
How much piston to valve clearance did you have with that cam?
plenty, I have valve reliefs

Originally Posted by 85MikeTPI
Did you datalog during the run? During a WOT blast? I will try and upload what I have tomorrow

Does the PT4000 in your sig indicate a 4000 stall converter?
yes and it was locked
Old 10-24-2012, 10:48 PM
  #5  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
work in progress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 918
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by gnfan
How much piston to valve clearance did you have with that cam?
plenty, I have valve reliefs

Originally Posted by 85MikeTPI
Did you datalog during the run? During a WOT blast?

Does the PT4000 in your sig indicate a 4000 stall converter?
yes and it was locked
I will try and upload what I have tomorrow
Old 10-25-2012, 08:41 AM
  #6  
TECH Enthusiast
 
bozzhawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: REALITY
Posts: 578
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by work in progress
Just finished the install, put it on the dyno and was very disappointed with the results. Ported LS3 heads, high compression 6.0 with an EPS 232/242 cam and only made 435/409. It idles fine, but will shake pretty good and then smooth out a little through out the pull. None of my other motors have ever had a shake like that. My tuner seems to think I have a cylinder out, but I cant find anything. I did swap the a and c pins on the cam sensor so the tach would work. I attached the dyno sheet to see if you guys may have some input. what really baffled me was the tq dip at the start of every pull.
I hate to say it but WRONG CAM.

I have seen a certain group of guys specing these high overlap cams here lately and all of the guys that have these similar cams do not produce the power they should and and they complain after due to the fact that the camshaft timing events do not compliment the LS3/L92 heads.
Old 10-25-2012, 09:11 AM
  #7  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (9)
 
85MikeTPI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Newark, DE
Posts: 2,172
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by work in progress
yes and it was locked
I will try and upload what I have tomorrow
PHP Code:
The converter was locked during the entire run?  Why?  Do you have a 5-disc lockup that can handle that low-rpm TQ without slipping?  

FWIWwhen I dyno'd my 427sbc/4000stall, the dyno wouldn't even register below 4500rpms
EDIT: I was reading up on the DynaPack dyno an the differences between it an inertia dyno. Have you always tuned on a dynapack before, or is this the first time? The dynapack has a different response than the more common dynojet.

L76/L92 low on power-hrdp_0405_17_z-chassis_dyno_guide-.jpg


Why did you stop the dyno at 6000rpms? Wasn't the valvetrain upgraded along with everything else? That cam/head combo should still be making power to 7000+

Need to look at the scans for converter slippage, knock, rich/lean, etc.. Is your "tuner" well versed in GenIV ?

Last edited by 85MikeTPI; 10-25-2012 at 11:32 AM.
Old 11-09-2012, 01:46 PM
  #8  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
work in progress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 918
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Ended up being a bad coil pack. made 499/468
Old 11-09-2012, 01:52 PM
  #9  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (12)
 
Cwarta's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Elm Creek, NE
Posts: 1,796
Received 57 Likes on 47 Posts

Default

Oh thank god OP. I was reading this and my new cam is nearly identicle. You had me freaking out. Nice numbers!
Old 11-09-2012, 05:31 PM
  #10  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (20)
 
litle88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Burbank, Illinois
Posts: 2,561
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bozzhawg
I hate to say it but WRONG CAM.

I have seen a certain group of guys specing these high overlap cams here lately and all of the guys that have these similar cams do not produce the power they should and and they complain after due to the fact that the camshaft timing events do not compliment the LS3/L92 heads.
According to CompCams Ls3 heads flow so good on the intake ( which we all know) that the exhaust needs about 10* more on the exhaust side to compliment it. I happened to be on the phone with them for a while lol.
Old 11-09-2012, 05:32 PM
  #11  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (20)
 
litle88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Burbank, Illinois
Posts: 2,561
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

OP congrats!!
Old 11-09-2012, 07:08 PM
  #12  
TECH Junkie
 
1989GTA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,092
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

Glad that you found the problem. Are your mods the same as in your signature such as the 1 3/4" headers. Not including the new camshaft of course.
Old 11-12-2012, 08:45 AM
  #13  
11 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
work in progress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 918
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by 1989GTA
Glad that you found the problem. Are your mods the same as in your signature such as the 1 3/4" headers. Not including the new camshaft of course.
Yes all bolt ons are the same.
Old 11-12-2012, 08:47 AM
  #14  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Tainted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 8,425
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

nice numbers! almost 500!!


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: L76/L92 low on power



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:15 AM.