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Old 02-06-2014, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
Don't be so modest Brian! You're not too bad yourself!
Eh... we all have our specialty, I'm really comfortable with the long runner OEM/Fast intake setups, not so much with setups using a ITB intake...

Katech struggling to make 700 hp with a 454 using the same ITB setup was enough to scare me off...

If I had more time I would be more willing to spend hours on PipeMax figuring it out, but I barely have enough time to take a poop...
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Eh... we all have our specialty, I'm really comfortable with the long runner OEM/Fast intake setups, not so much with setups using a ITB intake...

Katech struggling to make 700 hp with a 454 using the same ITB setup was enough to scare me off...

If I had more time I would be more willing to spend hours on PipeMax figuring it out, but I barely have enough time to take a poop...
You sure you don't just need more fiber?

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Got my trunnion kit installed in the oem ls7 rockers...pics coming soon...
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Well it was a pretty easy...just followed the pictures in the instructions...The weird thing is that the kit came with 64 bearings instead of 32.....I counted my rocker arms 3 times trying to figure out why I had so many bearings...its like they thought I was building a 4v motor lol

Pressing out the stock nonsense...




The devil bearings themselves.....


Pressing in bearing number 1




Put in the trunnion and pressing in the second bearing...




Then I had a set of trunnion upgraded rockers that I had to put snap rings on....and then wait until I have a set of heads to install them in...


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I finally sold my GSX-R so I now have 100% funds for the heads and head components!!!!

Just waiting on Chris at Frankenstein to get back to me!
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keep up the good work. I have a 70 nova Ive been doing for 2yrs now. aes408 with single pt88. Slow process. If i had to do it again i would do big inch build. I have thought about saling my stuff but i hate to take the loss. good luck and get this thing rolling
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Thanks man...I am trying to get it rolling as soon as possible....I am just waiting to hear back on the heads....It is killing me having this cash burning a hole in my pocket....
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Called Chris over at Frankenstein today and we got a plan together. We are going to go with the brodix castings, with copper valve seats, ported and milled for compression, Ti intake valves, and Stainless steel exhaust valves....Should be about 4-6 weeks out so it should match up with about the same time the short block is getting to me....I'm beyond pumped to get these heads rolling!!
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glad to see you finally decided on which heads to run
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Haha thanks...it was definitely a long process...Got to thank a bunch of people, especially Chris Frank, Martin Smallwood, Brian Tooley, and my boy Aaron Marisco!!!
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Originally Posted by Briou
Called Chris over at Frankenstein today and we got a plan together. We are going to go with the brodix castings, with copper valve seats, ported and milled for compression, Ti intake valves, and Stainless steel exhaust valves....Should be about 4-6 weeks out so it should match up with about the same time the short block is getting to me....I'm beyond pumped to get these heads rolling!!
Why the choice on the seat material?
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The copper are softer so there will be less wear and tear on the valves seeing as they are Ti intake valves...or something like that...Chris Frank explained it to me but I am blanking on the details...Basically it will make for a more reliable street driven head, so I don't have to worry as much about maintenance.

And lil...I looked at that before...I just can't run a hydroboost setup due to using the billet specialties tru track PS pump
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Forgot about that ...we did talk about that 4-5months ago. Was reading the article and thought about u.My crank/rods will be in this week 4 the 479.
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Originally Posted by Briou
The copper are softer so there will be less wear and tear on the valves seeing as they are Ti intake valves...
Copper alloy seats are too soft for street mileage in my opinion.

I would run ductile iron seats and have the titanium valves coated. There's a reason GM did this with their heads...
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So the copper alloy seats will wear out sooner? I was under the impression that they will absorb some of the impact of the valves...
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Originally Posted by Briou
So the copper alloy seats will wear out sooner? I was under the impression that they will absorb some of the impact of the valves...
Yes, and they will...
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Ok so even if I were to only put between 1-3k miles on it per year....copper still not a great idea? What about copper with coated Ti valves?
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Made the decision to go with steel valve seats and coated Ti valves...The reason I was going to go with the copper seats at first was because Chris had them in stock....But thanks to Brian and Chris, I am much more edumacated in the ways of valve seats...

On a side note I will be ordering a timing set soon.... Is this a good choice? Also it says that chain is available separately...is this just meaning that incase it needs to be replaced it is available, or does it mean that I would have to buy the chain separately?

http://www.briantooleyracing.com/com...et-3172kt.html
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Originally Posted by Briou
On a side note I will be ordering a timing set soon.... Is this a good choice? Also it says that chain is available separately...is this just meaning that incase it needs to be replaced it is available, or does it mean that I would have to buy the chain separately?

http://www.briantooleyracing.com/com...et-3172kt.html
The chain is included, but it can be bought separately if you ever need a replacement.


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