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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 09:39 AM
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I am definitely going to need a cam at some point...it is going to be a while before that though...I do have a question though....I have heard that you can run a bigger cam with the ITB intake and it will feel much milder street driving, etc....Is that true? I would love to have a fat nasty cam in it and still have nice street manners.
I'm not positive if the ITB intake will allow for more vacuum to be registered than a traditional OEM style intake, single plane or tunnel ram style intake.

It very well may which would allow you to run a larger cam.

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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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From what I have read, the fact that the intake runners do not share a common plenum eliminates the possibility of intake pulses feeding back into other intake runners, which lets the air flow to each intake runner smoother and more even...Or something to that effect...I don't remember where I read that or if it was from a credible source but it makes sense in my head
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Halltech put one of those fancy ITB intakes against Thier old fast 102/102 combo and saw 0 gain with the same motor just an intake swap.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 04:03 PM
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And if you look at the 600+rwhp that lpe403 is doing.

That's getting to be pretty common place on hci ls7 cars.

With plastic intakes and stock ported heads.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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He will get more than you all are talking bout 600rwhp: 454 A good set of heads and not a Air killer intake...aka..: FAST. Hell Halltech should go redo the cam cause if they saw no gain what size engine was this 408 and what heads did they have, off the rip he might pull over 610-620 rwhp and 640 dailed in.Go find out how much air a FAST can supply and then holla back and lets just say he has .662 lift Fast can't supply that, with what Briou has at the Minimum 600rwhp with a small cam
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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I think that's the point, that the fast can supply more than enough for 600+rwhp

The test has been done and the results have spoke.

This is why I'm a firm believer in talking to the people who have actually done ****. Because everything work out this way or that way on paper. But in the real world it could very well be different.

Halltech had a 427 and wcch ls7 heads


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He will get more than you all are talking bout 600rwhp: 454 A good set of heads and not a Air killer intake...aka..: FAST. Hell Halltech should go redo the cam cause if they saw no gain what size engine was this 408 and what heads did they have, off the rip he might pull over 610-620 rwhp and 640 dailed in.Go find out how much air a FAST can supply and then holla back and lets just say he has .662 lift Fast can't supply that, with what Briou has at the Minimum 600rwhp with a small cam
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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Fast intakes have done 640rwhp if not more I think anyways.

If those ITB intakes were as badass as everyone says they are you would be making closer to 700rwhp in my opinion.

Sheet metal intake with a big cam and wcch ls7 heads have done 660rwhp at 427inches

I would be looking at one of those if I felt the fast wasn't enough for me.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:22 PM
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Fast intakes have done 640rwhp if not more I think anyways.

If those ITB intakes were as badass as everyone says they are you would be making closer to 700rwhp in my opinion.

Sheet metal intake with a big cam and wcch ls7 heads have done 660rwhp at 427inches

I would be looking at one of those if I felt the fast wasn't enough for me.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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It actually I'm thinking of corvette chassis setups.

But if you have the room a mast or other carb style is probably going to be the best for all out power.

I think that one Monte Carlo is doing close to 700 at the tire stock ls7 castings and stock shortblock
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by blackonblacksls
And if you look at the 600+rwhp that lpe403 is doing.

That's getting to be pretty common place on hci ls7 cars.

With plastic intakes and stock ported heads.
We're not racing dynos are we? Entirely too many variables that you're not considering to simply target a dyno number. And show me one h/c ls7 car with a plastic intake and stock ported heads making the kind of power you "assume" mine makes.....in an fbody....thru a 9"....thru a FULL catted exhaust....in 90+% humidity....with only 20 deg timing....on a MD. Good luck in your search
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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We all NO that Fast is a great intake....We agree on that....now the intake this young man has is using is BETTER correct......I'm no dyno man myself it's more about how it drives in everyday circumstances.He has the foundation to have: 1. a lot of power and 2. that's just a killer way to get air to the heads &... it can give to them.So....... why wouldn't it be anything other than optimal. Once you get so far into the power....750& above the FAST will CHOKE! Briou as well as Mr. LPE have a setup that covers all the bases as far as to reach there heads full potential. And if I were to say MAST intake = ? This intake system won't heat soak and it's low profile.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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The heat soak was a little lame....
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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Pump the brakes Blackonblack....There is no one in this thread trying to enter a dick swinging contest with you....I don't care one bit haltech saw on the dyno by just switching intakes....I also don't care how common 600rwhp is with h/c/i ls7's.....I decided to go with the Kinsler intake on account of its capable of big power, it looks ******* bad ***, and because I can afford it....I will be more than happy to share my numbers once it gets put together and on the dyno
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:49 PM
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We're not racing dynos are we? Entirely too many variables that you're not considering to simply target a dyno number. And show me one h/c ls7 car with a plastic intake and stock ported heads making the kind of power you "assume" mine makes.....in an fbody....thru a 9"....thru a FULL catted exhaust....in 90+% humidity....with only 20 deg timing....on a MD. Good luck in your search
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...-own-risk.html

670ish rwhp stock heads plastic intake


You are the only one assuming things.

You have dyno numbers for your car, but you assume there is alot left.

He'll I've thrown together ls7 crap that made 560rwhp without any dyno tuning 18 degrees and through drivetrains that rob more than yours.
Hell with ported heads and a not stock tb I'd probably make close to what yours did. And it was only a 429 with a powerband like a truck.



If you want to see something that makes a proven mid 600rwhp there are a handful of ls7 cars I can think of on the corvette forum.

If you want hear about speculative mid 600rwhp set ups keep talking to these guys.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Briou
Pump the brakes Blackonblack....There is no one in this thread trying to enter a dick swinging contest with you....I don't care one bit haltech saw on the dyno by just switching intakes....I also don't care how common 600rwhp is with h/c/i ls7's.....I decided to go with the Kinsler intake on account of its capable of big power, it looks ******* bad ***, and because I can afford it....I will be more than happy to share my numbers once it gets put together and on the dyno
All the ls7 intakes we mention are capable of big power.

But none of them look as badass as the kinsler so good choice..

Sounds like you're well on the way to making 600rwhp or more
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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Briou they have a song that we listen to when riding by:French Montana, "I ain't worried Bout Nothing."You got it and that's that! Ain't nothing to talk about,Things in Motion Tend to stay in motion and I don't see no 18 wheeler so roll on Player. You got @ a min 600rwhp(427* $90,000.00 Z06) ...... in a WHAT Chevelle.... Also I like Ole schools look into DSE suspension for strong riding capabilities along the lines of Z06 handling if it's for the street. If your dragging DRAG on.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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I actually have a full suspension setup in it right now from UMI....well I'm waiting on the upper a-arms for the front but other than that I have full suspension with QA-1 double adjustable coil overs on all four corners...so that is covered
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Originally Posted by blackonblacksls
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...-own-risk.html

670ish rwhp stock heads plastic intake


You are the only one assuming things.

You have dyno numbers for your car, but you assume there is alot left.

He'll I've thrown together ls7 crap that made 560rwhp without any dyno tuning 18 degrees and through drivetrains that rob more than yours.
Hell with ported heads and a not stock tb I'd probably make close to what yours did. And it was only a 429 with a powerband like a truck.



If you want to see something that makes a proven mid 600rwhp there are a handful of ls7 cars I can think of on the corvette forum.

If you want hear about speculative mid 600rwhp set ups keep talking to these guys.
Dyno racing is useless...comparing vette drivelines to fbodies (stock or otherwise) is pointless. If you think ANY plastic intake is going to equally perform or better (lol) than an ITB you're clueless too. Go back to CF and be impressed by amazing dyno results without track times to back it....

Sorry OP, moving on....
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Its all good LPE.....I figured this thread would run into this at some point lol....in other news I should be getting my intake some time today!!
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Originally Posted by LPE 403
We're not racing dynos are we? Entirely too many variables that you're not considering to simply target a dyno number. And show me one h/c ls7 car with a plastic intake and stock ported heads making the kind of power you "assume" mine makes.....in an fbody....thru a 9"....thru a FULL catted exhaust....in 90+% humidity....with only 20 deg timing....on a MD. Good luck in your search
I know of one, only one though. Mine is an auto too though so that should tell ya something
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