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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 10:14 AM
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Hello, as the title states! I searched the forum and the web and still haven't found a lot of info on these heads? I know there are a ton I people running them, just looking for some INTEL on them!

How much rwhp do you think they would make?with this set up:

2005 Gto m6
Stock ls2 short block
233/239 cam on a 111 lsa
225 heads
Fast 102
1-3/4 arh
UDP
Ported 90 tb
Hendrix power chamber
46lb inj
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Somewhere in the 460-480 range depending on the dyno.
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Do you guys think I need to upgrade my stock fuel pump to a 255 with this set up?
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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I order the 225 prc as cast heads!
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 11:19 AM
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The stock fuel pump will be ok at that level, but thats about it, a na car with lower bfsc can see that power on the stocker.
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I gave these heads strong consideration before going with the PRC Stage 1 CNC'd LS6 heads (doing my own BTR spring upgrade) with very similar mods to yours on an LS1.

The obvious advantage of getting the as-cast heads is the room for growth they offer if you ever choose to send them back to be CNC'd.
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mOtOrHeAd MiKe
I gave these heads strong consideration before going with the PRC Stage 1 CNC'd LS6 heads (doing my own BTR spring upgrade) with very similar mods to yours on an LS1.

The obvious advantage of getting the as-cast heads is the room for growth they offer if you ever choose to send them back to be CNC'd.
http://texas-speed.com/p-3515-prc-as...ral-heads.aspx

Flow Data:

4.00" Flow Plate - No Exhaust Pipe

LIFT INTAKE FLOW EXHAUST FLOW
.100" 68 CFM 56 CFM
.200" 145 CFM 113 CFM
.300" 210 CFM 164 CFM
.400" 257 CFM 200 CFM
.500" 300 CFM 214 CFM
.600" 318 CFM 229 CFM
.650" 321 CFM 230 CFM
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I wonder why TSP has such low exhaust flow numbers on all of the heads they offer? That's why i was leaning towards TEA or Trick Flow as cast 220's done up by Tooley.
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wonder why TSP has such low exhaust flow numbers on all of the heads they offer?
Some places use an exhaust pipe when measuring flow, some don't. It makes a huge difference with one, so that's why some heads might come up short compared to others. Always check to see what sort of flow plate and exhaust pipe are used when determining flow numbers.
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Originally Posted by redtan
Some places use an exhaust pipe when measuring flow, some don't. It makes a huge difference with one, so that's why some heads might come up short compared to others. Always check to see what sort of flow plate and exhaust pipe are used when determining flow numbers.

How does "no pipe" vs a pipe or other setup affect the flow numbers ?

Does one tend to "inflate" the numbers ?
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Just switched the order to PRC 227 milled to 59cc!!! I just couldn't leave the extra hp on the table?
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flowing through a pipe is usually worth 20-30 cfms extra on the exhaust side.
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Blow through a straw that is 2" long vs one that is 12" long. You'll have your answer then. :-)
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Originally Posted by newschool72
flowing through a pipe is usually worth 20-30 cfms extra on the exhaust side.
Thank you for the info . . .
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Flow numbers don't mean much. If shops would publish their wet flow numbers, that'd be a better gauge.

Either way, it's really hard to compare flow numbers across vendors. The fixture, flow machine, and how the test is conducted can all change the characteristics of the flow pretty significantly and make comparing heads by CFM pretty worthless.
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Flow numbers don't mean much. If shops would publish their wet flow numbers, that'd be a better gauge. Either way, it's really hard to compare flow numbers across vendors. The fixture, flow machine, and how the test is conducted can all change the characteristics of the flow pretty significantly and make comparing heads by CFM pretty worthless.
Yep just like dyno numbers! You can make a dyno say anything!
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