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Old 03-27-2015, 01:13 PM
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You would gain at least 40rwhp over the hydraulic.

You'll need different springs than what you have now, shaft mount rockers and different lifters as well.

I'd be glad to take the lifters back and apply the cost of the lifters towards what you would need, which is a Morel 5425 Ultra Pro. They are 695.00 retail cost.
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Originally Posted by Martin@Tick
You would gain at least 40rwhp over the hydraulic.

You'll need different springs than what you have now, shaft mount rockers and different lifters as well.

I'd be glad to take the lifters back and apply the cost of the lifters towards what you would need, which is a Morel 5425 Ultra Pro. They are 695.00 retail cost.
I sent you an email Martin.
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Very nice build! Looking forward to seeing it all come together. Best of luck!
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Luv what's posted ...,,,but Tim has done that build....










I need to start posting pics......?. Can't do that. And really be from The Street
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Uhhh what ^^^
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What are you talking about lil john???
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Sorry I was Drunk and still drinking, but I'm gonna see if I can make this little ****, can hit a 8 on some dope with the cheapest budget ever on pump gas. Love your build BTW... sorry about the post still smoking and drinking. That 800 bucks could have gone on my Isx Ct heads still owe 2200. Sorry!

9 sec run should be you Goal. It's possible




Martin I need a new cam once I get a K member and rear suspension. I luv that Lil guy.

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I sent you an email Martin.
Uh oh......looks like things are about to get REAL interesting !!!!

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I'll put it like this Tim had a 418 e85 or high compression engine with a hydraulic roller and put the Meat to the ground with a light weight car, I assume that a Solid should make more HP that will or should cover the weight loss if the Car is not much heavy'er.
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Thanks for chiming in lil john. It's always nice to read your inputs and opinion. Feel free to put in your suggestions on building this motor to run in the 9's. Tim's(Gray86hatch) motor is what made me start this build, though not the same. His car is impressive to say the least.
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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
Uh oh......looks like things are about to get REAL interesting !!!!

KW
I'm just wanting to know how much 40rwhp is worth? maybe 2/10th's?

He said he can get shaft mounts from Crower for 500 less. I was informed by Chris@MAST that T&D were the only one that made shaftmounts for their med bore 11 degree heads. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by BOLO
I'm just wanting to know how much 40rwhp is worth? maybe 2/10th's?.......
Well.....8 to 10% more power with no additional drivability issues is righteous above and beyond just track times.

IMHO, of course .

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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
Well.....8 to 10% more power with no additional drivability issues is righteous above and beyond just track times.

IMHO, of course .

KW
Kip@CamMotion just explained the advantages at the other thread. Thanks KW for your opinion. I may just go with it.
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On another topic, and I know it's been ask many times, Timing set--- single chain or double roller? I have the Comp 3158KT which I purchased a while back and just need opinion on the double roller, do I need it for my application? Thanks
I don't like to use double roller timing chains for the following reason;

Is not recommended to use a chain damper with the double so they make noise and they tend to stretch much sooner without the damper.

My solution is to use a top quality single with factory sprockets sense I found aftermarket trusted name sprockets off by up to 5 degrees on multi choice lower sprockets.
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Originally Posted by CAMSTER
I don't like to use double roller timing chains for the following reason;

Is not recommended to use a chain damper with the double so they make noise and they tend to stretch much sooner without the damper.

My solution is to use a top quality single with factory sprockets sense I found aftermarket trusted name sprockets off by up to 5 degrees on multi choice lower sprockets.
CAMSTER, you think the Comp 3158KT(single chain timing set) will be off as well? I should just purchase a stock LS2 timing sprockets(cam/crank), and buy a C5R timing chain. Thanks for the suggestion man.

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Sorry about the drunk post trying to get ready for tomorrow ( being up 5 scaffolds). But you have a good thing going and by going with a solid roller only makes it better. Then Throw in the compression 800 fwhp is not out of the ? Camster has been running corn for a long time, he pretty much can answer any ? you have.
Also the Holley high ram is what's needed cheaper than a Mast and should be able to meet any airflow required.

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Oh yeah your running a 4500 T/b.
The engine should be down right Nasty.
Think about this, if you rev it to 7500 what can be accomplished with corn oil and a solid, Tim was being kind with a hydraulic roller: note he did go bigger later.
I just can't see me going bigger as Tq is not what I really want or need, that's one reason I'm so focused on heads.

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Ok, I made some changes after talking with Martin today. It looks like I too, will be going with a Low lash solid roller set up. Martin and I will be discussing the new cam specs, valve springs, shaftmounts rockers and lifters in the next day or so. With that said, I will be selling a new custom HR cam, a set of PAC valve springs, LS3 stock rockers with trunnion upgrade, all new! Pls. PM me if you or you know of anyone needing these go fast parts. Thanks guys.
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Martin will probably take back whatever he had sent you as credit towards the new stuff he's really good about that. Can't wait to see this thing done! 650rwhp anyone?
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Originally Posted by BOLO
Ok, I made some changes after talking with Martin today. It looks like I too, will be going with a Low lash solid roller set up. Martin and I will be discussing the new cam specs, valve springs, shaftmounts rockers and lifters in the next day or so. With that said, I will be selling a new custom HR cam, a set of PAC valve springs, LS3 stock rockers with trunnion upgrade, all new! Pls. PM me if you or you know of anyone needing these go fast parts. Thanks guys.
Awesome. Glad to hear it. You won't regret it one bit. I still can't believe how well the LL solid has done in my application.


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