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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 11:49 PM
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Guys

A stock LS3 block has a short sleeve.....about 5.500 long.

Even a 4" stroke pulls the piston out of the bore more than you would like but there are many out there and they seem to have a decent track record for solid long term reliability....pulling it out the hole another 1/8" IMO is the potential straw that breaks the camels back giving you long term piston rock issues and faster bore and skirt wear.

It wont make any more power.....the heads and induction dictate that.....a few more ft/lbs of torque but at the expense of what I just mentioned.

A Darton sleeved block on the other hand is 5.700 - 5.750 in length.....that means you can run a 4.125 stoke in that block and have less wear and tear than a stock block with a 4" stroke.....in fact the piston is further up the bore by an additional 1/8" or so.

Stick with a 4" stroke for all your stock block strokers IMO....they are cheaper and easier to build as well (less windage tray clearance issues, etc.).

Hope this helps!

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Old Apr 30, 2015 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Mamo
Guys

A stock LS3 block has a short sleeve.....about 5.500 long.

Even a 4" stroke pulls the piston out of the bore more than you would like but there are many out there and they seem to have a decent track record for solid long term reliability....pulling it out the hole another 1/8" IMO is the potential straw that breaks the camels back giving you long term piston rock issues and faster bore and skirt wear.

It wont make any more power.....the heads and induction dictate that.....a few more ft/lbs of torque but at the expense of what I just mentioned.

A Darton sleeved block on the other hand is 5.700 - 5.750 in length.....that means you can run a 4.125 stoke in that block and have less wear and tear than a stock block with a 4" stroke.....in fact the piston is further up the bore by an additional 1/8" or so.

Stick with a 4" stroke for all your stock block strokers IMO....they are cheaper and easier to build as well (less windage tray clearance issues, etc.).

Hope this helps!

-Tony
Tons thanks so much for all the help o just found out that the stock ls1 in my car is down a cylinder so my build may be on deck sooner than later.
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Old May 1, 2015 | 02:54 PM
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Listen to Tony. Less stroke just lets you rev the motor more for the power you wouldnt have, without the wear and windage penalty.
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Old May 1, 2015 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DietCoke
Listen to Tony. Less stroke just lets you rev the motor more for the power you wouldnt have, without the wear and windage penalty.
I would argue otherwise. The long runner plastic manifolds hinder power above a certain RPM. A longer stroke allows you to run a larger head that would otherwise be too big with a shorter stroke with the same intake.

More RPM doesn't always make more power if the torque isn't there.
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Old May 1, 2015 | 08:52 PM
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My ls3 based 427 was on the dyno this week for tuning and I can say I have no blowby. Also the oil consumption during the break in period has been low. I have JE asymmetrical pistons and rings.

I also have a friend with virtually the same motor but has Wiesco pistons. He had some pretty good blowby and had the rear main seal blown out. He had to do some serious venting of his motor.

Here is a link explaining the JE asymmetrical pistons.


http://www.jepistons.com/Articles/10...d-Pistons.aspx
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