L92 VVT Cam guys come in.
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L92 VVT Cam guys come in.
My 09 Escalade, recently spun bearing due to oil pump failure. I've been talking to a few companies about a vvt cam for it while I have the engine disassembled. It's 1 7/8 headers, 4in exhaust, cai, ported ls3 tb, and circle d 2800 converter. I've been looking for something to make decent power, sound near stock(stealth), and still have ***** to pull my car hauler.
TSP recommended either vvt1 or 2
Comp has recommended their 401 cam, but don't have phaser tables.
Mast told me their L92 ho cam, but I've been reading that their customer service isn't up to par and hard to get assistance when needed.
Many others have told me do away with vvt all together.
It's currently street tuned, but will be brought to patg for dyno tune once put back together.
TSP recommended either vvt1 or 2
Comp has recommended their 401 cam, but don't have phaser tables.
Mast told me their L92 ho cam, but I've been reading that their customer service isn't up to par and hard to get assistance when needed.
Many others have told me do away with vvt all together.
It's currently street tuned, but will be brought to patg for dyno tune once put back together.
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I have an LY6, which is very similar to the L92 except for iron block and 6.0 size.
I used vvt for a couple of years, thinking the low-end torque was what I wanted to retain. I also pondered the vvt options, but my tuner kept telling me to get away from it.
As the cam size goes up, the phasing has to be limited, making for less actual vvt action. Then there is the issue of phasing and tuning.
Finally, a couple of months ago, I put in a pretty mild LS9 cam. I found increase in torque and power across the range, but the 4000-and-up power is a freight train.
In your case, you have a heavy vehicle with a higher stall converter may be asking for transmission overheating. Not sure how long you have run it this way.
But, I wouldn't worry about ditching vvt. Find a tuner to discuss your plans, then choose a cam, and ditch the vvt. That's my suggestion.
I used vvt for a couple of years, thinking the low-end torque was what I wanted to retain. I also pondered the vvt options, but my tuner kept telling me to get away from it.
As the cam size goes up, the phasing has to be limited, making for less actual vvt action. Then there is the issue of phasing and tuning.
Finally, a couple of months ago, I put in a pretty mild LS9 cam. I found increase in torque and power across the range, but the 4000-and-up power is a freight train.
In your case, you have a heavy vehicle with a higher stall converter may be asking for transmission overheating. Not sure how long you have run it this way.
But, I wouldn't worry about ditching vvt. Find a tuner to discuss your plans, then choose a cam, and ditch the vvt. That's my suggestion.
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You mention you will have Pat G. tune this, so why not have him spec you a custom VVT cam. He does VVT cams too.
You mention you will have Pat G. tune this, so why not have him spec you a custom VVT cam. He does VVT cams too.
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The great thing about the TSP camshafts is the phaser tables are built on the engine dyno & sent to you for your tuner. This way you know you have the best phaser values for your camshaft. With the TSP camshafts we did a engine dyno step test every 200 rpms and varied the cam advance to determine the best phaser curve for max power at every rpm. It takes a $80,000 engine dyno capable of step testing to get this data properly, but the results are hard to ignore. For example the VVT3 & VVT4 make over 100hp flywheel gains!!
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The great thing about the TSP camshafts is the phaser tables are built on the engine dyno & sent to you for your tuner. This way you know you have the best phaser values for your camshaft. With the TSP camshafts we did a engine dyno step test every 200 rpms and varied the cam advance to determine the best phaser curve for max power at every rpm. It takes a $80,000 engine dyno capable of step testing to get this data properly, but the results are hard to ignore. For example the VVT3 & VVT4 make over 100hp flywheel gains!!
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I ended up going with the comp 401 vvt cam, mainly for its stealth sound and the ridiculous price I got it for after some promo comp had going on . PatG will be tuning it and said he tunes the tables himself. My new question is can I bump compression by going to a thinner head gasket while i have the heads off?
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I ended up going with the comp 401 vvt cam, mainly for its stealth sound and the ridiculous price I got it for after some promo comp had going on . PatG will be tuning it and said he tunes the tables himself. My new question is can I bump compression by going to a thinner head gasket while i have the heads off?
Hope someone else chimes in, I would like to know how to do it also.
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TSP has good VVT cams too. There are several people running them. Try a SEARCH. As Jason of TSP stated, they have the VVT tables too. That's a huge bonus.
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Little bit of an update and another question. The block wound up having to have #7 sleeved and final bore is 4.075 so it is time for a cam. I called Cam Motion and gave them my specifics and they spec'd this cam: 233/242 LSA 115.5 .621 intake .604 exhaust. Their sales rep said I should see 625-635 crank HP with this cam, mildly ported stock LS3 heads and a stock LS3 intake and it should pull hard to 6500, which is pretty much where I want it and maintain good driveability.
The question is does this cam seem to have a pretty wide LSA and a lot of lift for my needs and does anyone have a better recommendation and still be able achieve 600+ crank HP and maintain good valvetrain life?
The question is does this cam seem to have a pretty wide LSA and a lot of lift for my needs and does anyone have a better recommendation and still be able achieve 600+ crank HP and maintain good valvetrain life?
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