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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 04:01 AM
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Anybody running a LLSR setup instead of hydraulic? Wondering how the profile would be different. Ex. Would a 232/400 Solid roller perform the same as a 232/400 hydraulic?
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For a CAMMOTION LLSR you need to add ~8* to the HR duration
to account for lash. So LLSR 240*/248* ~ HR 232*/240*.
Similar vacuum and Driveability with potential for
1000 RPM Increased RedLine.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 11:27 AM
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Great. Thank you sir. I've always been concerned about exceeding 240 on duration. Heard that it's not recommended on LS3 without valve relief cut into piston. Is that a myth?
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Great. Thank you sir. I've always been concerned about exceeding 240 on duration. Heard that it's not recommended on LS3 without valve relief cut into piston. Is that a myth?
With OEM heads?

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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 02:03 PM
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Yes. Ported but OEM.
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I'm running a LLSR in my LS2. Kip asked what profile I would want if it were a hydraulic and we settled on it being a 234/242. So the solid roller I received is spec'ced out to 239/247.

If you have the heads off just use a mic and measure valve drop. He can calculate what specs you can go up to and have enough PTV clearance.

The only thing I changed was the cam, lifters, and pushrods. Cam size went from 230/238 to 234/242. Car was running a best of 11.42 and now has went 11.33 with it being rich by 5%.

I'm using stock rocker arms on my setup with arbor shims to set the lash.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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Outstanding. Great info. Thank you sir.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:16 PM
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Per Kip my LLSR 236/240 ~= HR 232/236.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 05:24 PM
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Great. Thank you sir. What lift and LSA is in that cam? Looks close to what I'm trying to build.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 10:13 PM
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I 236/.640", E 240/.615" on 113+3.
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Old Feb 24, 2016 | 10:35 PM
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That's it. What is this in? LS3? What car? Wondering about satisfaction. Power & drivability. Thanks.
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LS1, PRC LS6 heads, T&D rockers, BTR platinum dual springs, Fast / NW 92, 1 7/8" headers, '02 Camaro, M6, street / fair-weather / Power Tour car that I road race now & then. I have not had the car on the dyno since I put the cam in last spring (made 415 on a Mustang dyno before the swap). Valvetrain noise was reduced 90%, power is great, very satisfied. The car idles / runs great but I do have some light-throttle bucking that I can't seem to fix. I'm tuning myself (EFILive) so that's part of the problem LOL. It took me 2 years tuning with my old cam (232/236 hydraulic roller) but I was able to remove 99% of the bucking but with the LLSR I haven't got it done.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 06:04 AM
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Sounds good. Thanks. I bet that dude sounds awesome.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 11:35 PM
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You can get a SR and the biggest baddest on the market, without the intake, heads and exhaust work, will make zero difference. Don't forget the other goodies.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 11:52 PM
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Yessir. Frankenstein is porting factory heads, IM & TB will also be ported. 1 7/8 Kooks LT, CAI, ATI 10%UD,etc.
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 11:53 PM
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sounds awesome. I might let F do my next set.
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