Cam me!
Cam me! I know I'm not the first to ask but with all the sponsors on here and guys who have done it before, I need some suggestions. Spent way too much time looking the last few days.
I'm collecting parts for my ctsv (ls2)
A fast 102 and long tubes/high flows will pretty much be it for additional upgrades. It's a dd and monster was pretty clear they don't like super chargers on a lvl 2 clutch. (Plus it's going to get me in more trouble)
The car has 3.73s and it's not going to see more than one night at the track for the hell of it. I'm wanting the most usable torque mid band I can get and still be friendly on the street.
Always keep coming back to the xr269 from comp.
I'm collecting parts for my ctsv (ls2)
A fast 102 and long tubes/high flows will pretty much be it for additional upgrades. It's a dd and monster was pretty clear they don't like super chargers on a lvl 2 clutch. (Plus it's going to get me in more trouble)
The car has 3.73s and it's not going to see more than one night at the track for the hell of it. I'm wanting the most usable torque mid band I can get and still be friendly on the street.
Always keep coming back to the xr269 from comp.
First option:
Custom grind. I highly recommend Martin Smallwood (Smallwood Racing Development). I have heard nothing but good about him and he'll know just what to do with your cam to give you the most with your mods.
Second option:
If you just want a simple shelf cam, I have a Brian Tooley Stage 2 grind in my car and the torque is beautiful. Made peak torque at 4,450 rpm, has ***** down low, and pulls strong to 6,800. I have yet to hit full throttle in the car since the cam swap because it has so much torque. Either my clutch won't hold, or the tires won't hold. As far as driving goes, it's much better than I expected. I haven't stalled the car yet and I don't rev the car any higher than factory when leaving a stoplight. It honestly drives like factory until you stand on it.
A BTR Stg 2 cam gets my vote.
Custom grind. I highly recommend Martin Smallwood (Smallwood Racing Development). I have heard nothing but good about him and he'll know just what to do with your cam to give you the most with your mods.
Second option:
If you just want a simple shelf cam, I have a Brian Tooley Stage 2 grind in my car and the torque is beautiful. Made peak torque at 4,450 rpm, has ***** down low, and pulls strong to 6,800. I have yet to hit full throttle in the car since the cam swap because it has so much torque. Either my clutch won't hold, or the tires won't hold. As far as driving goes, it's much better than I expected. I haven't stalled the car yet and I don't rev the car any higher than factory when leaving a stoplight. It honestly drives like factory until you stand on it.
A BTR Stg 2 cam gets my vote.
One way or another you pay so I'm not against having a custom ground cam, honestly it just didn't enter my mind for as little as it gonna do to it.
My initial thought was to look for a xr cam from comp as the last couple motors albeit different than an ls I have had great results in the past (especially with my poncho). But the more I think about it I want to venture out of my box a bit more. As much as I have read about ls motors this it the first time putting one together.
My initial thought was to look for a xr cam from comp as the last couple motors albeit different than an ls I have had great results in the past (especially with my poncho). But the more I think about it I want to venture out of my box a bit more. As much as I have read about ls motors this it the first time putting one together.
I've heard great things about Kip as well, just couldn't recall his name earlier lol
If you don't mind spending a little extra, I would definitely get in contact with one or both of the gents mentioned above. See what they say, make sure you're clear with your goals and such, and you will love the outcome. Now if only I could listen to my own advice...
If you don't mind spending a little extra, I would definitely get in contact with one or both of the gents mentioned above. See what they say, make sure you're clear with your goals and such, and you will love the outcome. Now if only I could listen to my own advice...
I wouldn't trust another Comp cam in a lawnmower much less a performance engine.
Call Cam Motion and they can fix you up with something ground on a better cam core. Since it's a DD the reliability is worth it for sure.
Call Cam Motion and they can fix you up with something ground on a better cam core. Since it's a DD the reliability is worth it for sure.
It's not the first time I have heard this, have seen a lot of threads about comp failures in ls motors. Cam motion looks pretty solid. The stage 2 btr looks fitting as well.
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Verdad Gallardo Right, the more I keep reading about the cam motion cores the more I like. I want something with a milder ramp rate, strong mid band torque and will still be happy pulling a heavy *** car on the freeway with .56 over drive and 3.73
I'm on the conservative side of performance with this one. I'm still on the fence about caming it in general. Car has 112k on it, motors never been opened up and has great oil psi. Everything in my head says lust don't touch it but that's just no fun. My original plan was just headers,a fast 102 and tune it.
I'm on the conservative side of performance with this one. I'm still on the fence about caming it in general. Car has 112k on it, motors never been opened up and has great oil psi. Everything in my head says lust don't touch it but that's just no fun. My original plan was just headers,a fast 102 and tune it.
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Another suggestion, for your build level with stock heads the FAST 92
would be easier to tune ,and perhaps install as well (not sure
on second part) and wouldn't hold you back much if at all
compared to theFAST 102. If you do go 102 I would use your
90 MM stock TB (have it ported) and use a throttle body
V-Max Velocity ring to eliminate the step between 90 MM TB & FAST
Intake opening, this will Definitely be much easier to tune,
and cost little to No HP loss vs 102 TB at your power level.
112K miles is nothing if taken care off.
would be easier to tune ,and perhaps install as well (not sure
on second part) and wouldn't hold you back much if at all
compared to theFAST 102. If you do go 102 I would use your
90 MM stock TB (have it ported) and use a throttle body
V-Max Velocity ring to eliminate the step between 90 MM TB & FAST
Intake opening, this will Definitely be much easier to tune,
and cost little to No HP loss vs 102 TB at your power level.
112K miles is nothing if taken care off.
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Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE210
Another suggestion, for your build level with stock heads the FAST 92
would be easier to tune ,and perhaps install as well (not sure
on second part) and wouldn't hold you back much if at all
compared to theFAST 102. If you do go 102 I would use your
90 MM stock TB (have it ported) and use a throttle body
spacer ring to eliminate the step between 90 MM TB & FAST
Intake opening, this will Definitely be much easier to tune,
and cost little to No HP loss vs 102 TB at your power level.
112K miles is nothing if taken care off.
would be easier to tune ,and perhaps install as well (not sure
on second part) and wouldn't hold you back much if at all
compared to theFAST 102. If you do go 102 I would use your
90 MM stock TB (have it ported) and use a throttle body
spacer ring to eliminate the step between 90 MM TB & FAST
Intake opening, this will Definitely be much easier to tune,
and cost little to No HP loss vs 102 TB at your power level.
112K miles is nothing if taken care off.
Will the 92 require an immediate tune? Ideally I would like to do it all at one but we all know how that goes when you have new parts sitting on the bench
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it does not affect clearance front to rear.
You Will require tune for HCI, may require 36lb injectors also.
Mail order tune may work I have no experience with those.