Project Fentanyl 408 MJ killer.
05-19-2019, 07:54 AM
#21
To much going on here.....i posted the FB build reference. Didn't see it in the first 5min so i cut and pasted it. Wake up to a x2 post. Any chump, punk, or good guy can make hp with a part that forces air into the chamber....I Love NA! Fµ©k a FI build sh!+ 2 Easy.....same 408 with 9.0 compression and same parts = roughly 650hp + 14.5 psi = 1300 weak as hp. I have Always wanted Nascar HP levels @ best....850 was a childish goal....no longer a kid.
05-19-2019, 08:18 AM
#22
Just between us here i've read and looked at some great builds over the yrs....So why when a person has the opportunity to do some Remarkable stuff with great parts. Bi+€hes settle for Avg hp .....i own other cars, so my goals aren't what a normal ls guy wants are.....700 @ the crank is OLD news Speedtigger & a 402, F'ed that up....if you got 420+ ci and less than 750 hp......Shame on you... And the 12.4+comp build with 770hp & 454's ... Luv the guy ......pissing on that Super high dollar build also. #1 on my list
Stalk the hp # of Ls1 tech Finest with a 408. Real talk. Competitive....very much so...
Stalk the hp # of Ls1 tech Finest with a 408. Real talk. Competitive....very much so...
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05-19-2019, 08:46 AM
#23
Just between us here i've read and looked at some great builds over the yrs....So why when a person has the opportunity to do some Remarkable stuff with great parts. Bi+€hes settle for Avg hp .....i own other cars, so my goals aren't what a normal ls guy wants are.....700 @ the crank is OLD news Speedtigger & a 402, F'ed that up....if you got 420+ ci and less than 750 hp......Shame on you... And the 12.4+comp build with 770hp & 454's ... Luv the guy ......pissing on that Super high dollar build also. #1 on my list
Stalk the hp # of Ls1 tech Finest with a 408. Real talk. Competitive....very much so...
Stalk the hp # of Ls1 tech Finest with a 408. Real talk. Competitive....very much so...
With a few tweaks like a velocity stack to put on the throttle body and removing the belt on the water pump I would have seen another 10-20 hp.
The heads are good ls3 casting heads ported by Gavin Simcoe, he graduated from Sam like Chris Frank. I believe around same time.
Intake I use has proven to work well on several other builds like mine, (Darth and hammers). 12.08:1 compression is good as well.
Cam is on the small side but very street friendly at 246/262@.050 .689/.672 112lsa 108 cl.
Im not sure how this effects it but with a steady flow of city water running through the engine on the dyno, temp never went over 120°. Usually these engines like to be fully warmed up. My car has always ran best straight off the highway on the track at 185°
05-19-2019, 09:20 AM
#24
How can i turn back......i got all the parts. Just gonna bump the compression 11.8 vs 12.5+. F it. E85....was trying to be calm...F' it. Side ego Say's to Me ....Get Your B!+©µ as & mill those ls3 heads F you and Rowdy Pµ$$µ a$$ and 800 lift.
Last edited by Smokey B; 05-19-2019 at 09:30 AM.
05-19-2019, 09:38 AM
#25
Very competitive, i know what i bought....with a 2nd personality which thinks he's some kind of engine Wiz...
Just said again mill me MF'er i want to be 62cc also...Don't leave me @ 70 cc with tears....gotta mill'em now!!
Just said again mill me MF'er i want to be 62cc also...Don't leave me @ 70 cc with tears....gotta mill'em now!!
05-19-2019, 10:18 AM
#26
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And the mostly one-sided conversation continues.....
05-19-2019, 11:36 AM
#27
Serious question here. Why do some people prefer to build extremely expensive NA stuff rather than go forced inductions. The money you guys put into heads and **** is insane for relatively low power. Seems like for the money build a solid short block and your choice of boost and have a very drivable car with way more power for less money. I know a lot of people talk about lag but take a ride in a well setup turbo car and there isn't any.
It's a different feeling when you have a NA engine making a ton of power.
You also get the reliability too.
Forced induction means you need a much less radical camshaft to make power so you get better driveability and way more power.
There are also cons with excess heat and decreased reliability because of the way higher pressures.
I would love to go for the forced induction route but my transmission is the limiting factor.
The cost to replace it and then rebuild the replacement plus a new tailshaft and programming etc will be way too costly.
05-19-2019, 11:38 AM
#28
Another thing too is Smokey B is rambling again as usual... and not making sense.
It's a bit strange how he won't stop.
He has been told countless times but he continues to waste his time.
Oh well.
It's a bit strange how he won't stop.
He has been told countless times but he continues to waste his time.
Oh well.
05-19-2019, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
I guess I failed then because 750 doesn't happen as easy as you claim.
With a few tweaks like a velocity stack to put on the throttle body and removing the belt on the water pump I would have seen another 10-20 hp.
The heads are good ls3 casting heads ported by Gavin Simcoe, he graduated from Sam like Chris Frank. I believe around same time.
Intake I use has proven to work well on several other builds like mine, (Darth and hammers). 12.08:1 compression is good as well.
Cam is on the small side but very street friendly at 246/262@.050 .689/.672 112lsa 108 cl.
Im not sure how this effects it but with a steady flow of city water running through the engine on the dyno, temp never went over 120°. Usually these engines like to be fully warmed up. My car has always ran best straight off the highway on the track at 185°
With a few tweaks like a velocity stack to put on the throttle body and removing the belt on the water pump I would have seen another 10-20 hp.
The heads are good ls3 casting heads ported by Gavin Simcoe, he graduated from Sam like Chris Frank. I believe around same time.
Intake I use has proven to work well on several other builds like mine, (Darth and hammers). 12.08:1 compression is good as well.
Cam is on the small side but very street friendly at 246/262@.050 .689/.672 112lsa 108 cl.
Im not sure how this effects it but with a steady flow of city water running through the engine on the dyno, temp never went over 120°. Usually these engines like to be fully warmed up. My car has always ran best straight off the highway on the track at 185°
05-19-2019, 12:55 PM
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05-19-2019, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
Im good with the cam I have, I have the idle dialed in and never searches for idle after a blip of the throttle.
I have my little 125 baby shot for if its not enough.
I have my little 125 baby shot for if its not enough.
His approach is very different than your or mine would be but if he can tolerate the motor acting like it will good on him. He said he dealt with rowdy motors before and can drive them fine. I believe him.
05-19-2019, 03:12 PM
#34
Yeah I was not recommending. Just saying when you start making peak power at 8500, HP numbers come higher typically. Pay for it in reliability or in parts prices.
His approach is very different than your or mine would be but if he can tolerate the motor acting like it will good on him. He said he dealt with rowdy motors before and can drive them fine. I believe him.
His approach is very different than your or mine would be but if he can tolerate the motor acting like it will good on him. He said he dealt with rowdy motors before and can drive them fine. I believe him.
05-19-2019, 04:53 PM
#36
Agreed.
From two pages of ramblings, I think he's building an engine that's "the dope" (aka Fentanyl) with the help of some SAM-Tech experts out of the pile of parts he's collected. His Super 408 NA engine will kill all the big buck Mary Jane / plain Jane 420+ cube NA engines with big dollar heads with ease at a. fraction of what they cost.
Title should be:
From two pages of ramblings, I think he's building an engine that's "the dope" (aka Fentanyl) with the help of some SAM-Tech experts out of the pile of parts he's collected. His Super 408 NA engine will kill all the big buck Mary Jane / plain Jane 420+ cube NA engines with big dollar heads with ease at a. fraction of what they cost.
Title should be:
Project Fentanyl: 420+ MaryJane Killer.
05-19-2019, 08:37 PM
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05-19-2019, 09:07 PM
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I didn't know he WAS banned. No longer listed as a member, so it must be. No surprise there. Smokey B's loose-cannon style of posting pretty much says it's him though.