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Old May 16, 2019 | 09:47 PM
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Baseline is to take everthing seen and known and add it into the build. We have 2 phases for the short block: Ls3 top-end SR* & 11.8 comp (Friend here wants 12.4 this is my low comp lazy B!+°µ. so maybe 12.2, 4 a friend= c a # buss a # as time)
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Eagle 6.125 rods & 4 inch crank
Ported melling hi press OP, easy work and melling will send new screws no $ spare set.
Improved crank scraper
Morel bushed 6177 lifters 4 now..Mamba's with the difference?
260/272 @ .050 .730 lift both sides 113lsa
JE asymmetrical 4.030 bore
Speedmaster x2 roller cam chain with adjustments..
Moroso pan with windage tray
Total seal gapless rings. ms4701

1st thing is to take parts to Zach for short block. Got the price for listed work needed but will be adding a few things #1 arp rod bolts and not this 750hp o3d rod bolts,
Tired (have other small stuff to list, 2qrt accusump,etc...)..but will be getting into desired quench, piston and Deck height and the typical short block stuff (my ideas and parts) Pay 4 labor - SamTech EMC winner, Perfect. Really want to take the springs and put them on my own Ls7 heads and really F a # Darth. But the ls3 stuff is ready to go... so. I've got 2 stop buy give Jim his crank scraper..$ and talk to Zach as to when would be a good time to drop off everything.

We will see if the idea or Theory will add up? If not No comment. But brother, Speedtigger's 402 with 700? e85 fuel use only, have higher compression in mind. This is before the over dose. Oh yeah meant as DD if need B you got to be able to have a fix and trailer queens are wkends only.
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Reference is a 13+ compression IRON head Pump Gas 355ci DD. Driven round trip 80+ miles 5 to 6 times a wk in a swb 1500 chevy.

For well over +10yrs and now being restored by his son. Same 355 just normal rebuild, with cab & body work 2019 update, by cuz'o. "Last OG" reference tv series

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Old May 16, 2019 | 09:54 PM
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Smokey, good to see you start this thread on your stuff. These guys, including myself, like pictures. Throw up some, and keep us updated. Looking forward to seeing numbers.
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Honestly don't know how to...btw this is old news stuff, ask tuskey or darth (huge CSA 268cc ls3 head vs a smaller CSA 275cc ls7 head). My Ls7 Rowdy Yates heads is to die 4 *f* this ls3 stuff....800+ lift with the same short block & 13.2 compression. Reminds me of Flyin's 800hp 418 *13.2 comp & Chris Frank Ls3 heads (my baseline head)? Crazy thing is have $200+ invested in dome tops for even higher.....

Gotta stick to the short block 4 now...don't focus well when Rowdy's around. 1 of 1 as far as heads go. On some TI dime trap music when i came up with this, that's why it's so loved...driving alot = music & thinking
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Project Fentanyl..... Why do I see so much TRUTH in that title??
Old May 16, 2019 | 11:10 PM
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Born on date?
Death date?
Everything in between is called life..a funky as car nor engine will have that privilege...from racing. I'm Cool Hand Luke.

Have 2 many States under my belt with yrs.

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All went well & This crazy as city" the H....stopped by to pay Jim 4 the "crank scraper no Windage tray part # egm -342 f. I have the Moroso 20143 oil pan: pickup tube with louvered windage tray" from there the day got funny. As some may know Jim is a older Comp eliminatior guy, so i get there, say's I got you & points at the phone..on a call. 1st thing said once off " is you bought that BS crank scaper? I'm like yeah...asks, So what gain's could be seen or expected? (Jim has tested this theory & always Says Compression is the Best and cheapest Hp modds?) I say maybe 1 to 2 % and it's helps with slinging oil- windage.. Jim say's come to the back, once there points to a block, crank & rods says" this is for you when you want some hp...540bbc short block. I'm lost @ this point..maybe blazed after the hair cut. So i pay Jim and we're talking...correcton Darth, the 427 with unported Ls3 heads and 4150 made 670 @ 6500 cam was 238 hyd roller under .650 lift, if i'm not mistaken. e85 & on compression haven't asked unlce Jim. I said call me when it comes in...as i'm gone to JJ the BOSS city in the mourning. So as i'm out the door, Joe my Mexican friend that works there also say out Loud...When is the End of the World? watching some crazy web stuff ...& H town is crazy with killings & rapes (big city stuff small town also)...


Thought to myself well i do know this answer also...and the Big Guy's funny...
When they build the Jewish temple and left Joe with B & Noble reading..army vet also "Joe".. Know the good book better than a 4 stroke.

Patty "Zach's (<builder) wife has me ready 4 after the 27th when i get bac & a wk off. Could have taken everything today!!! To tired and 1 day off. Still want the Schumann weld up pickup tube flange $17.50. Have the Improved pickup tube brace, i'm picky. Kurt Urban sells a rocker arm stud girdle that's gotta get Modd'ed for the Larger stud*..Jomar wanted me to send the head @ the time as, they didn't have a Ls3 girdle, need 2 call on GP. Small stuff till the mains are aligned and we start the numbers game. Forgot that i have 2 *6.0 iron blocks (Sonic test both blocks +80 on the better block & those dome pistons later on) 1 of the blocks i chambered the rear of the block >lifter oil gallery and made it a Cross-over (Steve @ RED has a cnc program that does this cheap yet shipping a iron block cost, self done) . Theory and putting it into practice... Bushed Ls hyd roller lifters from Johnson lifter? That was a Call in that got made? Funny!

Watching ole dvr stuff & the playoffs


Topic ...that's my name on YB and reason Isn't my color. Maker of a Ls7 head for a 4.030 bore. I've done a few things messing with a ls...Some even remember me from the Chris Frank stg1 listing that was tested @ SamTech by Chris Bennet...

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Old May 18, 2019 | 12:32 AM
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Hey Smoke! Ever notice 5 out of the now 8 posts in this thread are yours? And ALL nothing but a bunch of useless RAMBLING and talking to yourself???
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...i'm asking No questions. All facts *no* Opinion's needed especially not from a... U wanna try my explorer or cobalt...lol
I know what's thought on Sales and valve shrouding....glad there's real MF'er's in the world. Don't get yourself a role model.....they're just playing a role. Get yourself a Real Model ....a mf'er who Will Keep it Real @ all cost. No hype or heresay. This isn't we got a 454+ci....but .we want that hp number type ______! $1k lifters isn't for 650 hp and DD. Something 2 read G.
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Stg1 ls3 head & 4500 TB with a intake that Can support 369cfm @ the piston?

Get as Much Air & Fuel in and ignite it? Remember this is the lazy B!+€µ. The Shrouded Valve head is the retard
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Dude I agree with you. Compression by itself is not going to be a big power gain, but the right compression will make your cam shine. So like all things being equal, going from 11.4 to 12.3 would not be much power but with that cam will make a big difference.

What's the csa on the rowdy heads?

Also when you do the ls7 heads you gonna offset the dowels to center the intake valves a bit more?

A lot of good parts in your list. I run crank scrapers. A lot of people will tell you not worth it blah blah blah but if you add up all the little individual *not worth it* mods you leave like 50 hp on the table. Say a scraper gives you ten hp. For what- $250? I use the $50/hp rule. Cheaper than that it is worth it.
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I also tend to pay up for good parts.

Power, reliability, price. Pick two. I choose reliable power.
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Jim is talking 13.0+.....uncles James 355ci and 13+ compression iron heads? J & J working together....
Years of deals.....G.Good has done work for James yrs ago...in my old hood 5min away...BBF...

U know i got u getting Crunk 2 leave.....Russian calls Curses me out....U forgot your check when u got in...and you know i'm building a New home,Cuz'o has some more stone work and you might stay here when it's ready for stone.Remember this is the owner ...done stone work to his other home, this one is 1.8 million not as much space as j and the 5000sq home in the hood. The warehouse has enough room for practice for 1/8 mile testing...Shop has cars that have been restored....over 8...wait till they get a look @ what i'm cooking....it's deadly...killed MJ. Elephant motors also 420ci + ....thats the purpose, with something that is really nothing just good parts and Great people...

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Kinda of reminds me of the BBF and a 65swb ford..now i'm Grown. Dream turned REAL...John B just a 408 1st go round.


i gotta shoot my shot and i'm looking for a bigger fighter as always...nothings gained fighting my size..

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Old May 18, 2019 | 10:18 AM
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I'm crazy....Trump and Russian Collusion. Be doing that....LMAO...
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Jesus this is difficult to follow..........
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
Jesus this is difficult to follow..........
Don't even try... call it cheap entertainment and go from there....
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Ls1 Sales and this Hotel = web crash .....no other site does this....BS ads and ls1!

Darth csa is 2.9 vs .....LOOK @ the Higgins small bore for Reference.....we'll get to rowdy later 1.55ex valve, doesn't need to much of anything. Also Darin wanted me 2 use a +.060 overbore =Spare block +.090 if thick enough and the Dome tops

May just Rowdy that a$$ with FED Ls3 heads....mill to Rowdy 62cc = 13.1 with 260 & 730 lift....

Yeah that what's gonna happen...F'em 1st time out. 800 lift and dome tops for 14.8 compression is 4 Rowdy.
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I liked this 1 also...

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wonder how well FED Ls3 heads, fair out.....FB link ..no post, cut & paste..xbox1 does some weird cut & paste

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Old May 19, 2019 | 01:15 AM
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Serious question here. Why do some people prefer to build extremely expensive NA stuff rather than go forced inductions. The money you guys put into heads and **** is insane for relatively low power. Seems like for the money build a solid short block and your choice of boost and have a very drivable car with way more power for less money. I know a lot of people talk about lag but take a ride in a well setup turbo car and there isn't any.



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