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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 07:42 AM
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Go BTR dual springs with ti retainers. Hardened or chromeoly 3/8 pushrods are fine. Everything else looks good. New ls2 chain and oil pump too.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Go BTR dual springs with ti retainers. Hardened or chromeoly 3/8 pushrods are fine. Everything else looks good. New ls2 chain and oil pump too.
Oh duh forgot that.

Ls2 chain and stocker pump? Or melling?

Itll also get a new water pump (not electric), and all new gaskets.

Did @lazerlemonta say I needed a new balancer? Just oem replacment or sfi/whatever?

Seeing ati at about $400 and summit at about $200. Assuming the powerbond is right out as its just an oem replacement

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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 07:56 AM
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How do we feel about the btr stage 3 cam? Seems fairly close to the titan 3. Specs below for reference.

Titan 3
Duration at .050": 227/237 - 113 Lobe Center Angle with a 109.5 Intake Centerline
Lift with 1.7 Rocker Arm Ratio: .621"/.604

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Specs: 229/244 .615"/.595" 113+4

Just asking as the price at 719 for the kit with btr springs and ti retainers is appealing. Though it is 5/16 pushrods, might email them to see if theyd swap.

If its not as good no problem. Not going to let a few hundred dollars cause me a headache.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 08:17 AM
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BTR cam will give you more chop. You may just call BTR and ask them to do an entire package deal and let them spec pushrods, timing chain, oil pump, etc.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
BTR cam will give you more chop. You may just call BTR and ask them to do an entire package deal and let them spec pushrods, timing chain, oil pump, etc.
Not a bad idea but thats what you guys are for 😂

Might do that when im home.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 09:26 AM
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Depends on where you want your power. If you are just trolling the streets I would stick with T3. If you want more top end the BTR. But then you may as well get the Titan king like cam motion posted earlier. They do full kit specs also.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Depends on where you want your power. If you are just trolling the streets I would stick with T3. If you want more top end the BTR. But then you may as well get the Titan king like cam motion posted earlier. They do full kit specs also.
Curious what the real difference will be here. Peak moving up to 7k? Will the bottom end of the rpm be weaker? Just noodling some things.
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With a properly spec'd torque converter and tune it won't matter.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
With a properly spec'd torque converter and tune it won't matter.
So whats the con then? Like I said I plan to cam the car and dyno tune it then buy a convertor that works best with the curve.

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Originally Posted by shelbysguns
So whats the con then? Like I said I plan to cam the car and dyno tune it then buy a convertor that works best with the curve.
Higher power band will make the bottom end of the RPM range softer, but a torque converter that's sized properly will mask it. More overlap, as in bigger cam, also don't idle and drive as well, but again a stalled auto and a good tune will also help that.

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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 11:18 AM
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If you are wanting to run 10 sec down the 1/4 mile you will at least need a stage 3 camshaft.
Either the 233/250 113lsa +5 from Brian Tooley or the titan 4 from cam motion.
​​​​​​you will require gearing and other supporting mods too for this to work well.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Higher power band will make the bottom end of the RPM range softer, but a torque converter that's sized properly will mask it. More overlap, as in bigger cam, also don't idle and drive as well, but again a stalled auto and a good time will also help that.
Interesting. Curious as to @Darth_V8rs take on it.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Higher power band will make the bottom end of the RPM range softer, but a torque converter that's sized properly will mask it. More overlap, as in bigger cam, also don't idle and drive as well, but again a stalled auto and a good time will also help that.
Spider is telling you right. Eventually it comes down to preference. A slightly tighter converter and slightly smaller cam vs larger cam and looser converter. If you do not plan to rev into the 7's, I would truly stick to the smaller cams.

But if you want the bigger cam you can use a looser stall to tame it.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
Spider is telling you right. Eventually it comes down to preference. A slightly tighter converter and slightly smaller cam vs larger cam and looser converter. If you do not plan to rev into the 7's, I would truly stick to the smaller cams.

But if you want the bigger cam you can use a looser stall to tame it.
What else would have to change to rev over 7k?
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If you get the valvetrain right, nothing.
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Originally Posted by shelbysguns
What else would have to change to rev over 7k?
Pretty much nothing else. You've picked out good lifters. Get good pushrods, do not overspring, and you should be in great shape on any of the cam options in this thread.
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Old Jan 6, 2020 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bortous
If you are wanting to run 10 sec down the 1/4 mile you will at least need a stage 3 camshaft.
Either the 233/250 113lsa +5 from Brian Tooley or the titan 4 from cam motion.
​​​​​​you will require gearing and other supporting mods too for this to work well.
This is a bull **** statement lol I went mid 10s stock cam/heads...... There is an auto that bested me by a few thousandths as well stock cam. These cars work well when you put some effort in to make them accelerate..... Spend the $400 and buy the ATI or look on the forums/ facebook etc for a used one.
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Old Jan 6, 2020 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lazerlemonta
This is a bull **** statement lol I went mid 10s stock cam/heads...... There is an auto that bested me by a few thousandths as well stock cam. These cars work well when you put some effort in to make them accelerate..... Spend the $400 and buy the ATI or look on the forums/ facebook etc for a used one.
Let me get this straight, are you saying a stock cam and stock headed LS3 can run 10 sec down the 1/4 mile?
and this is without forced induction correct?

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...and here we go!
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Yes 100% stock cam and stock heads. NA.... Why do you think I am so pissed off at my head cam set up lol I have been 10.62 at 134.8 with it....


I went 11.0 with 100% stock exhaust too lol


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