The 830HP pump gas 434 that could
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Apples with apples is to compare other similar engines using those same brodix BR7 heads, not other heads. Because those brodix heads work extremely well from what I've seen. And these were done by Frankenstein also, double +. Also every engine with brodix heads typically stands out (unless they've been butchered by some hack) not just the LS. Brodix has been developing aftermarket cylinder heads almost before anyone else. Look at any high HP old school engine, SBC's, BBC's, even big block mopars, they are almost always some of the quickest and fastest cars out there when using a brodix casting when they were ported by someone that knows what they are doing.
https://brodix.com/heads-2/small-blo...le-heads/br-ls
https://brodix.com/heads-2/small-blo...le-heads/br-ls
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272cc runner, 2.25 Ti intake and 1.614 exhaust valves
Solid flow numbers but certainly not the "highest" on the interwebs, which goes back to flow data is just one component of a good head/good combo k bye
.200...162 intake/ 95 exh
.300...240 intake/ 140 exh
.400...292 intake/ 177 exh
.500...338 intake/ 229 exh
.600...381 intake/ 247 exh (I don't know if the intake # was a typo or not so leaving it)
.700...376 intake/ 254 exh
.800...383 intake/ 258 exh
.900...395 intake/ 258 exh
1.00...403 intake/ 258 exh
Solid flow numbers but certainly not the "highest" on the interwebs, which goes back to flow data is just one component of a good head/good combo k bye
.200...162 intake/ 95 exh
.300...240 intake/ 140 exh
.400...292 intake/ 177 exh
.500...338 intake/ 229 exh
.600...381 intake/ 247 exh (I don't know if the intake # was a typo or not so leaving it)
.700...376 intake/ 254 exh
.800...383 intake/ 258 exh
.900...395 intake/ 258 exh
1.00...403 intake/ 258 exh
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Not being naive at all. Its definitely possible. I just don't see your combo doing it. With no power adder, dished pistons, low timing, only spinning it to 7500, and heads that big. The heads would be hurting you more than helping you. Whats the compression? I would be surprised its even 11:1 with those dished pistons. I know many people that have 434's and 427's including myself and no one is breaking 800. Several of us have the CID intake as well. Ours has a 1100 dominator on top too. We all have very good flowing aftermarket heads too with way more compression. You would have to spin the **** out of it to hit those numbers with your combo. I was born on a day and i sure as hell wasn't yesterday. The track always tells the truth, period.
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What heads are on these engines? How can you say a well ported brodix br7 can hurt more than help on a build like this, when factory 427ci zo6's with cam+bolt ons etc can perform so well with their oem heads which are nearly as large? I think a lot to do with it is who ported the heads, the camshaft selection, and the entire combination. IMO you can't just say it's BS if you don't have exactly what he has.
In the picture it appears he has dished pistons. I asked if they were dished or not but there has been no reply. If they are dished with no power adder, those are some bad *** heads and flow crazy for sure. In that application they would be too big IMO. Then I said if they weren't dished but domed then i stood corrected and I was wrong. Now people are implying I said you can't make big power NA. which I never said. Many have and always will. Now there is a guy bashing my engine builder that has been nothing but good to me and a few others that I know that use him. These motors do exactly what they said they will do and are very pleased with the out come for sure. One person talks **** about him and many just jump on the band wagon, what a joke. He never mentioned his name but told me about a guy that was a pain in his *** that caused his own problems and followed him around talking **** stalking him like a deranged maniac. Wonder if it was him. May have been a dam good reason for that letter. Then a guy posts a NA engine combo that is running low 9's. Lots of guys doing it at that race weight for sure.. My friend with the Butler motor is 2400 race weight and he is knocking on the 8's door N/A. His is 780FWHP. There is a very wide array of heads the guys I know have and I'm not mentioning any because whats the point. People on here are just waiting to talk ****. Take it to the track and all the rose colored glasses can come off. The track always tells the tail. Period. So carry on and talk **** twisting it to whatever you want. I'm out. Have A Great Day!!!!
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Verdad Gallardo In the picture it appears he has dished pistons. I asked if they were dished or not but there has been no reply. If they are dished with no power adder, those are some bad *** heads and flow crazy for sure. In that application they would be too big IMO. Then I said if they weren't dished but domed then i stood corrected and I was wrong. Now people are implying I said you can't make big power NA. which I never said. Many have and always will. Now there is a guy bashing my engine builder that has been nothing but good to me and a few others that I know that use him. These motors do exactly what they said they will do and are very pleased with the out come for sure. One person talks **** about him and many just jump on the band wagon, what a joke. He never mentioned his name but told me about a guy that was a pain in his *** that caused his own problems and followed him around talking **** stalking him like a deranged maniac. Wonder if it was him. May have been a dam good reason for that letter. Then a guy posts a NA engine combo that is running low 9's. Lots of guys doing it at that race weight for sure.. My friend with the Butler motor is 2400 race weight and he is knocking on the 8's door N/A. His is 780FWHP. There is a very wide array of heads the guys I know have and I'm not mentioning any because whats the point. People on here are just waiting to talk ****. Take it to the track and all the rose colored glasses can come off. The track always tells the tail. Period. So carry on and talk **** twisting it to whatever you want. I'm out. Have A Great Day!!!!
All seriousness I'll keep that matter private but I can assure you I was not served a letter but another engine builder was. So, don't mind MY opinion about Mr. McCaul.
All that matters is that you are happy with what they offer but if your using him to try to discredit OP's combo... well... yeah I personally can't take his opinion serious.
This is my last reply about that matter and let's not derail this post. If you have questions for me PM me directly.
Let's keep this about the post.
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Let's not forget the engine builder purposely does not have an in-house dyno/uses a 3rd party for the exact reason you inferred (inflating numbers etc). At some point I guess I'll video myself filling up 93oct at the local gas station. As far as racing goes I didn't build this sweet piece & upgrade to a 10pt cage to race a dyno...and my track time will be limited bc Dragy and street life.
Self promotion of my old 408 on an unprepped street LOL
https://youtu.be/V6x2F1Coax0
Self promotion of my old 408 on an unprepped street LOL
https://youtu.be/V6x2F1Coax0
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Damn someone is bashing him? That's crazy...
All seriousness I'll keep that matter private but I can assure you I was not served a letter but another engine builder was. So, don't mind MY opinion about Mr. McCaul.
All that matters is that you are happy with what they offer but if your using him to try to discredit OP's combo... well... yeah I personally can't take his opinion serious.
This is my last reply about that matter and let's not derail this post. If you have questions for me PM me directly.
Let's keep this about the post.
All seriousness I'll keep that matter private but I can assure you I was not served a letter but another engine builder was. So, don't mind MY opinion about Mr. McCaul.
All that matters is that you are happy with what they offer but if your using him to try to discredit OP's combo... well... yeah I personally can't take his opinion serious.
This is my last reply about that matter and let's not derail this post. If you have questions for me PM me directly.
Let's keep this about the post.
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Another 440ci with brodix br7 heads (not by FED) but this one hydraulic roller and their website says it makes 805hp @7400rpm on 93 pump gas
tremaniac.racing/posts/1912544355513650
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Why is it you won't answer the question? Are those pistons dished or domed? Very simple question for the third time. So you didn't have any track time before and now your going to make excuses ahead of time why you probably won't be going now. Imagine that. As far as I'm concerned Dynoes are a waste of money. You go to ten different ones and they will all be different. Let me make this clear. I never said anything about your engine builder and again if that motor has dished pistons and no power adder I don't believe that dyno sheet goes with that motor. Absolutely nothing to do with the builder.
Why is it you won't answer the question? Are those pistons dished or domed? Very simple question for the third time. So you didn't have any track time before and now your going to make excuses ahead of time why you probably won't be going now. Imagine that. As far as I'm concerned Dynoes are a waste of money. You go to ten different ones and they will all be different. Let me make this clear. I never said anything about your engine builder and again if that motor has dished pistons and no power adder I don't believe that dyno sheet goes with that motor. Absolutely nothing to do with the builder.
Why is it you won't answer the question? Are those pistons dished or domed? Very simple question for the third time. So you didn't have any track time before and now your going to make excuses ahead of time why you probably won't be going now. Imagine that. As far as I'm concerned Dynoes are a waste of money. You go to ten different ones and they will all be different. Let me make this clear. I never said anything about your engine builder and again if that motor has dished pistons and no power adder I don't believe that dyno sheet goes with that motor. Absolutely nothing to do with the builder.
408 went 6.40's to the 1/8 on the 3rd pass at 3500lbs off the footbrake.
Dynos are a tool to provide data. It's laughable to think we would go through the trouble to map a dyno from another engine to mine. Give me a break!
Another 440ci with brodix br7 heads (not by FED) but this one hydraulic roller and their website says it makes 805hp @7400rpm on 93 pump gas
tremaniac.racing/posts/1912544355513650
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or look up on facebook ... tremaniac.racing
tremaniac.racing/posts/1912544355513650
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