Help with leakdown/compression results
If you're blowing a fuse relating to anything like that, that's a major problem and could have caused damage to either of those items although it's either user error at some point or a wiring fault.
I don't know if I'll have better luck at a dealer. I obviously want it fixed correctly, but I don't want to spend unlimited funds for someone to practice on the car either.
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I noticed one of the two cylinder #2 wires was broken, which both me and Shop B missed or perhaps it hadn't completely snapped off before; they said they'll fix it for free if I obtain a connector, which I've ordered. Surely that was the source of the misfire. Waiting for TB & manifold gaskets that should arrive by Monday. Got the new injectors on the new fuel rail, waiting for some new EV1>EV6 adapters as mine look a little beat up. There was oil mist on the front of the TB blade and a small pool of it at the bottom of the blade. Oil pressure sender base was dry, as were all of the threads, it actually looked new on the threads. Top of the valley cover, but only the back half, had an oil film on it, not sure where that would have originated; any oil originating off the manifold gaskets should dribble down the V between the edge of the valley cover and the head. Head intake runners are mostly brown/black, manifold is wet inside. I've cleaned up all except catch can stuff and still working on the interior intake manifold.
I don't remember if there was a process to clean the head intake runners while the heads are installed? Not interested in pulling the heads at this time, as it was a PITA to do it at home 15 years ago. But I have head studs now, maybe that'd make it easier in the future?
How should I route hoses with the following available connections? What size hoses do I need? If those hoses can't compatible with the fittings, where do I get the adapters? I'm open to buying different valve covers.
1) DS valve cover (only one vertical port in the rear)
2) PS front valve cover (only one horizontal port in the front)
3) Valley cover
4) Intake manifold
5) Throttle body
6) Small catch can with a single inlet and single outlet that looks like this:
http://nebula.wsimg.com/75bc401ec419...&alloworigin=1
7) I haven't had a PCV valve that looks like this since I swapped my LS1 intake to a LS6 intake on a LS1 engine 15 years ago.
https://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-pcv-valve-1997-2004.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=& scid=scplp25-187986-1&sc_intid=25-187986-1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4sCb8fvc6QIVha_ICh0-tA09EAQYBSABEgKD1vD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds#
Where do I get those GM loom clips that hold the large harness on each side of the fuel rail to the fuel rail?
What I see kinda sounds like a engine that did not seat the rings,, On track cars I use a specific break in oil,
a lot of burnishing happens in that fist 5K miles between the oil rings and the cylinders.
Joe gibbs is what I use, but any higher ZDDP oil helps. Many think that the cams don't need it any more but just based on observation and gut the engines I've seen that got a break in oil have a more consistent cam wear pattern, and a more consistent bore condition.
Now most of those engines are sprints, and get a couple laps then 30+ minutes of redline for break-in time.. but works for me..
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What I see kinda sounds like a engine that did not seat the rings,, On track cars I use a specific break in oil,
a lot of burnishing happens in that fist 5K miles between the oil rings and the cylinders.
Joe gibbs is what I use, but any higher ZDDP oil helps. Many think that the cams don't need it any more but just based on observation and gut the engines I've seen that got a break in oil have a more consistent cam wear pattern, and a more consistent bore condition.
Now most of those engines are sprints, and get a couple laps then 30+ minutes of redline for break-in time.. but works for me..

I wouldnt have any concerns about not using them
There is a similar PCV discussion happening on FRRAX (which is a F-body autocross/road race forum) regarding large amounts of oil in a catch can during HPDE events. Why is MM recommending -6AN and others say to run the largest hose possible? I'd certainly ask MM if I could talk to him directly.
To keep it simple and forget all of my plumbing, you need this:
Late LS6 Valley cover -> good PCV catch can -> intake PCV port
Baffled stock or better valve cover with big fat 5/8" bung minimum -> big fat 5/8 minimum hose -> big catch can -> big fat hose -> intake bellow/air cleaner
In order for the above to work best, you want the fattest breather hoses possible, long distances, and good baffling both in the valve cover and inside the catch can. As an added plus keep the catch cans away from heat and wrap the hoses to keep them from getting hot. Remember these are the key things when setting up the breather side of your setup
1. Fat hoses reduce the velocity
2. Distance gives oil vapor more time to settle out of the air flow
3. Cooling helps oil/water vapor condense into liquid form
4. Baffling seperates oil/water vapor/liquid from air flow
Do that and you will stop puking oil and also prevent oil from gumming up your carb.
The funny thing is that it gets progressively worse over time so I was getting frustrated each time I would change something it would be somewhat normal and go back to idling high. (Changed iac, throttle blade, air filter, idle relearn about a dozen timesIt is now triggering p0507 (idle higher than commanded). The idle has been 1000-1200 rpm and the "idle coasting to stop" jumps up to like 1800. My gas mileage has been really bad too
And this:
the mm can has a pcv valve and also one way breather. If your road racing your at wot 50% of the time so lots of crank case pressure and if there sucking huge amounts of air in it has to go out.
I have no maf,and my set up is--------- 3/8 pipe after filter to (U.S) drivers side head(clean air in)------block off passenger side valve cover ---------dash30 oil fill to catch can------3/8 pcv valve(tapped to can) to valley cover---one way breather to top of can-----
When cruising This way you have clean air gets drawn into engine ,mixing with blowby, then drawn into can, oil mist/water condenses, leaving clean air to go out thru pcv to valley
At wot blow by increases to the point where the 3/8 pipe sizes cant evacuate and the one way breather opens venting to atmosphere. Even with dash 30 pipe going out to can i still get a drop or 2 of oil due to reversion back up clean air pipe--------In a month i may have 3/4inch oil/water in my can and intake manifold is absolutely clean
For road circuit application larger ventilation requirements and the larger hoses are typically interfaced to the valve covers improperly resulting in extreme oil loss. It's very difficult not making our own valve covers yet to manage this for the customer. The best and safest route is to stick behind the factory baffling without a very specific and controlled plan of attack.
There is a similar PCV discussion happening on FRRAX (which is a F-body autocross/road race forum) regarding large amounts of oil in a catch can during HPDE events. Why is MM recommending -6AN and others say to run the largest hose possible? I'd certainly ask MM if I could talk to him directly.
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For road circuit application larger ventilation requirements and the larger hoses are typically interfaced to the valve covers improperly resulting in extreme oil loss. It's very difficult not making our own valve covers yet to manage this for the customer. The best and safest route is to stick behind the factory baffling without a very specific and controlled plan of attack.










