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Old Jun 16, 2022 | 01:11 PM
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Default LS7 cam rec - LS Rx7 results are in

So I found a stock LS7 takeout for my car and put a deposit on it. At first I was just going to drop it in as-is, but I've been down this road before. My car isn't the best with traditional LS power delivery with smaller cams. Too much of a lump of low and mid-range torque, and not enough up top.

My deal I'm looking for something a little non-conventional. Would be open for input. I want to keep overlap minimal, ~5*+/- a couple degrees at .050" for minimal idle aggressiveness - looking for a smooth relatively stealthy idle (like sit next to CA police in traffic stealthy) around 900-950rpm, but tailor valve events for 4000-7500rpm operation. Engine is going in a 2800 pound, 6 speed, 3.90 gear mazda rx7 to enjoy on the street, and flog on track and in the canyons. Stock ls7 intake manifold for now w/ potential to change to holley sniper low pro or maybe an MSD in the future (both have hood/firewall clearance issues so it is not an immediate priority), 1 7/8" headers w/o cats, unrestricted intake tube, 10% UD pulley, RPS carbon clutch.

In internet speak, stage 1 overlap w/ stage 3 powerband is the goal. My priority is to shift the powerband up and carry torque at high rpm. I want usable traction and high rpm performance with a broad powerband to give it more of a sports car feel.

Valvetrain will be stock Ti intakes, stock exhaust valves, stock rockers, stock lifters, and unsure on valvesprings - still researching what works best with the ls7 installed height. The heads were gone through 10k miles ago. I prefer not to take the heads off.

I will be grinding Comp's new low shock hydraulic lobes.

This is what I've come up with so far. 234/247 118+3, .647/.650" lift w/ the 1.8 rockers.

What valvesprings do I need that aren't too expensive, work with stock lifters, and the taller ls7 installed height?

Would this also work with the short runner Holley Sniper low pro?



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Old Jun 16, 2022 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by spanks13
So I found a stock LS7 takeout for my car and put a deposit on it. At first I was just going to drop it in as-is, but I've been down this road before. My car isn't the best with traditional LS power delivery with smaller cams. Too much of a lump of low and mid-range torque, and not enough up top.

My deal I'm looking for something a little non-conventional. Would be open for input. I want to keep overlap minimal, ~5*+/- a couple degrees at .050" for minimal idle aggressiveness - looking for a smooth relatively stealthy idle (like sit next to CA police in traffic stealthy) around 900-950rpm, but tailor valve events for 4000-7500rpm operation. Engine is going in a 2800 pound, 6 speed, 3.90 gear mazda rx7 to enjoy on the street, and flog on track and in the canyons. Stock ls7 intake manifold for now w/ potential to change to holley sniper low pro or maybe an MSD in the future (both have hood/firewall clearance issues so it is not an immediate priority), 1 7/8" headers w/o cats, unrestricted intake tube, 10% UD pulley, RPS carbon clutch.

In internet speak, stage 1 overlap w/ stage 3 powerband is the goal. My priority is to shift the powerband up and carry torque at high rpm. I want usable traction and high rpm performance with a broad powerband to give it more of a sports car feel.

Valvetrain will be stock Ti intakes, stock exhaust valves, stock rockers, stock lifters, and unsure on valvesprings - still researching what works best with the ls7 installed height. The heads were gone through 10k miles ago. I prefer not to take the heads off.

I will be grinding Comp's new low shock hydraulic lobes.

This is what I've come up with so far. 234/247 118+3, .647/.650" lift w/ the 1.8 rockers.

What valvesprings do I need that aren't too expensive, work with stock lifters, and the taller ls7 installed height?

Would this also work with the short runner Holley Sniper low pro?

When and if using a shorter Runner intake you can stand to lose a few numbers on the intake duration to get some Tq's back....

Springs look at Comp...
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Old Jun 16, 2022 | 04:12 PM
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I have this in my 6.2 with LS7 heads and a stock LS7 intake.
230/246 .644"/.630" 115+4
https://briantooleyracing.com/btr-ca...-33146154.html

It idles nice and wasn't difficult to tune. I also live in SoCal and have not had any trouble with LEOs.
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Old Jun 16, 2022 | 09:21 PM
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I was going to recommend the BTR Stage 2 ^^

I had the Stage 3 as my first LS7 cam and I absolutely loved it. Had power everywhere, pulled nicely to 7k and the idle sounded great (but more aggressive than what you are looking for). I'd bet the Stage 2 is exactly what you are looking for.
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 09:13 AM
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Forgive me if I should know this … what gen RX-7? FD? FC?

I love my Miata, but in some ways, an RX-7 swap makes a better finished car. I like convertibles, though.
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 10:15 AM
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FD rx7! Handling character is more playful like a Miata, and my experience is it puts power down better than vettes.

The btr stg 2 is my backup plan if I can’t get a cam ground fast enough, but I’d like to have something a little more top end focused and a touch less overlap. I have considered installing it retarded 4*.

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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by spanks13
FD rx7! Handling character is more playful like a Miata, and my experience is it puts power down better than vettes.

The btr stg 2 is my backup plan if I can’t get a cam ground fast enough, but I’d like to have something a little more top end focused and a touch less overlap. I have considered installing it retarded 4*.
Have one made just for the Ole: FD RX Ls7
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 06:27 PM
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Cam Motion has some PD blower cams that would fit your bill. They should kill some low end and scream up top. How available they are is another story. The last two custom cams I ordered from CM arrived within a week of when I ordered them. Apparently, that's not the case now.
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This answers the question exactly! I’ll be looking into it. I have the same problem, LS has too much low down torque for a light rwd RX7 imo. I’m top 5 in circuit track events, but mid field in hill climbs with the standing starts. Part driver of course, but part engine dynamics as well.
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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sledgie
This answers the question exactly! I’ll be looking into it. I have the same problem, LS has too much low down torque for a light rwd RX7 imo. I’m top 5 in circuit track events, but mid field in hill climbs with the standing starts. Part driver of course, but part engine dynamics as well.
It's all about the use of the engine and vehicle. Most just go off of the avg answer.
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Originally Posted by Sledgie
LS has too much low down torque for a light rwd RX7 imo.
The trouble is that a cam with shitty low end torque usually also has shitty low end driveability. OK for a track car, not so hot for a street car.

Traction control or some restraint on the throttle is called for. Even if you can’t use full throttle until 3rd gear, it’ll still be quick enough to see off anything but a tubbed purpose built drag car. You built an RX-7 because you wanted a fast *sports car*, not a drag car.

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Old Jun 17, 2022 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by grubinski
The trouble is that a cam with shitty low end torque usually also has shitty low end driveability. OK for a track car, not so hot for a street car.

Traction control or some restraint on the throttle is called for. Even if you can’t use full throttle until 3rd gear, it’ll still be quick enough to see off anything but a tubbed purpose built drag car. You built an RX-7 because you wanted a fast *sports car*, not a drag car.

All JMHO, of course.
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Originally Posted by grubinski
The trouble is that a cam with shitty low end torque usually also has shitty low end driveability. OK for a track car, not so hot for a street car.

Traction control or some restraint on the throttle is called for. Even if you can’t use full throttle until 3rd gear, it’ll still be quick enough to see off anything but a tubbed purpose built drag car. You built an RX-7 because you wanted a fast *sports car*, not a drag car.

All JMHO, of course.
While I do agree with you that a more well rounded cam along with some right foot education would be better, there are cams available to do just what the OP wants. These three from Cam Motion wouldn't run rough on the low end in a 427 by any stretch. Maybe a little lazy down low, but not rough. More top end oriented. Lift would be higher on these with 1.8 ratio rocker arms.
PD 228/242 LS Supercharger Camshaft (228/242-118+4) for Positive Displacement - Cam Motion
https://cammotion.com/camshafts/pd-2...-displacement/
https://cammotion.com/camshafts/pd-2...-displacement/
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Originally Posted by old motorhead
While I do agree with you that a more well rounded cam along with some right foot education would be better, there are cams available to do just what the OP wants. These three from Cam Motion wouldn't run rough on the low end in a 427 by any stretch. Maybe a little lazy down low, but not rough. More top end oriented. Lift would be higher on these with 1.8 ratio rocker arms.
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What do you think will make them a little soft on the low end? The wide LSA?
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Originally Posted by grubinski

Traction control or some restraint on the throttle is called for.
I realized after I posted that my recent track day taught me that track tires that are up to temp put down power a heck of a lot better than even autox tires do on the street (where you can't stay on it long enough to get them really hot).

My car won't hook 2nd *at all* on the street, but at the track day, once the tires were hot, it'd hook 2nd no problem. So for my car at least (2400#, 471 rwhp with lots of midrange torque, skinny 205 section tires), I really only "need" traction control on the street.
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