Anyone running All Pro retro LS7 heads?
08-23-2022, 12:07 PM
#41
TECH Veteran
Port volume being the same is about the only thing heads have in common. Obviously CSA, port shape, port length, and valve size changes things. Look down the ports of the two heads and you'll see some big differences. I'll post a good picture down the port of my Mamo head and you would almost swear the valves are canted based on port shape.
08-23-2022, 01:17 PM
#42
People get Sold on BS everyday...
Same head from the other guy makes similar. Or you get to a point where you Learn for your self. Each porter has a technique but All good Porters share a few things in common. So seeing something tells us Nothing .. it just Math with a Formula for each combination.. Most heads share points where it needs Help = more Material... seeing a head isn't 💩. It's calculations on this 💩.
Btw I designed another small bore Head...reason 4 the thank you earlier
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08-23-2022, 02:46 PM
#43
We Way past Talking....
I'll answer my Own questions cheaper and Smarter Than...
2.250 valve using a 4.00 bore I'm @ .030... did they move the intake valve? 🤣😂 I built a 2.20 valve head for a 4.030 bore. Need a 2.250 test valve 4 the Spare gen IV DOD valley lq4
GG and the Thought adds up 2 me using a shorter than 6.2 valve...Smaller port @ 285 & I'd need around 282 cc..🤣😂
Using common Parts and a BS series head... MBE did it why Can't i...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ket-heads.html
answer I spoke of above. 2.240 valve & GG = this
Shrink the exhaust....
Chevelle? This is Basic Hot Rod stuff.. Not Nascar stuff.
Make it Work ... lmao....
Foot on Neck Situation....
https://www.mbellc.com/mbe-small-port-ls7
I'll answer my Own questions cheaper and Smarter Than...
2.250 valve using a 4.00 bore I'm @ .030... did they move the intake valve? 🤣😂 I built a 2.20 valve head for a 4.030 bore. Need a 2.250 test valve 4 the Spare gen IV DOD valley lq4
GG and the Thought adds up 2 me using a shorter than 6.2 valve...Smaller port @ 285 & I'd need around 282 cc..🤣😂
Using common Parts and a BS series head... MBE did it why Can't i...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ket-heads.html
answer I spoke of above. 2.240 valve & GG = this
Shrink the exhaust....
Chevelle? This is Basic Hot Rod stuff.. Not Nascar stuff.
Make it Work ... lmao....
Foot on Neck Situation....
https://www.mbellc.com/mbe-small-port-ls7
08-23-2022, 02:53 PM
#44
Came..
Saw
Conquered...
If you get the Basics and a Formula .....No need 2 talk about it...
The Game is too be $old not told. I say F that!
I got it = Everyone Has it and it's Free Game..
Next head I do will be named
Jim Rockford... think about that..or Google the name and what he does or did.
The Truth is 🤣😂
Saw
Conquered...
If you get the Basics and a Formula .....No need 2 talk about it...
The Game is too be $old not told. I say F that!
I got it = Everyone Has it and it's Free Game..
Next head I do will be named
Jim Rockford... think about that..or Google the name and what he does or did.
The Truth is 🤣😂
08-23-2022, 03:00 PM
#45
Lets see how Simple can I make this on some Real talk...one could Take Summit CNC 260 tfs head without parts and Match What's being seen for a few hundred dollars..
What's a SSR or Bowl job with a port that flows 390's...
What's a SSR or Bowl job with a port that flows 390's...
08-23-2022, 03:09 PM
#46
About a 1000 dollars with a casting less than...
Yeah I'm him. REINVENTED.
Yeah I'm him. REINVENTED.
08-23-2022, 06:03 PM
#47
TECH Veteran
Heres a twist for a thought.... 
A (2.10 valve) Brodix BR1-13 245cc runner head flowing basically the same flow numbers as Small bore LS7 head (2.15 valve) (250 or so Runner)...
i know airspeed and port volume plays a role...
A (2.10 valve) Brodix BR1-13 245cc runner head flowing basically the same flow numbers as Small bore LS7 head (2.15 valve) (250 or so Runner)...
i know airspeed and port volume plays a role...
08-23-2022, 06:09 PM
#48
I see the Brodix follow up is on the next link. They actually tested the Brodix head on a later magazine on that engine. They were the 273s regular spring (they had just come out when this article was done - so new 273s might do a little better now) they did 799 hp and 714 tq at similar rpms what others had done.
08-23-2022, 09:24 PM
#49
i'm gonna Direspect a Cathedral... all the Way there 4 you. Just 4 you. .. YB and my Group Crush fake thoughts ...
I'll ask you Do you knowz of URE and Chris?
this isn't Just one Forum I do this With It"z any Engine...Lsx is a tattoo and a engine I own.....
So to your question here's the answer..... a Cathedral port Ain't.....Pause for it...
Rectangular nor Oval .
Game over just on that...
Tell any or someone to call Me a Liar...
Beer run..laughing on my bicycle....
home Tax time money ...
Tuskey ask our other Brother what I do on the YB Forum with da Best? Super Dave?
I got a thread called: if i did it All over again it would be a BBF and tfs a460 heads.
You think I don't know already?
My game carries over Any engine..
08-23-2022, 09:45 PM
#50
I just don't touch them but a idea that's known is fun...
Air Pump knowledge
Fill the Cylinder is what I was Told.. And a Cathedral Ain't it.
Tuskey would you Like to know what GG thinks?
Free game.. He's not doing Cathedral 😂🤣👊👉 only upon Request.. H Town 🤘
how do I know? What has GG presented that was Cathedral that's making Power?
Is it that a Rectangular-oval port or the Raised runner vs a Cathedral style head is better?
How many ways you want the Loss? At 650 fwhp you'd be happy but if we're talking 700+ on pump any Size combination You'd Lose...
if your out here Looking 2 disrespect folks on Power...
You'd need a aftermarket Cathedral head to do what Factory ls3's have done. So wanna F wit a Ls7...
your list is guys with Plastic intakes... We do what a Plastic guy does drunk. 4500TB/Carb life..
Let me know where I'm wrong...
You got street then you Got the Maximization of Cylinder filling
Air Pump knowledge
Fill the Cylinder is what I was Told.. And a Cathedral Ain't it.
Tuskey would you Like to know what GG thinks?
Free game.. He's not doing Cathedral 😂🤣👊👉 only upon Request.. H Town 🤘
how do I know? What has GG presented that was Cathedral that's making Power?
Is it that a Rectangular-oval port or the Raised runner vs a Cathedral style head is better?
How many ways you want the Loss? At 650 fwhp you'd be happy but if we're talking 700+ on pump any Size combination You'd Lose...
if your out here Looking 2 disrespect folks on Power...
You'd need a aftermarket Cathedral head to do what Factory ls3's have done. So wanna F wit a Ls7...
your list is guys with Plastic intakes... We do what a Plastic guy does drunk. 4500TB/Carb life..
Let me know where I'm wrong...
You got street then you Got the Maximization of Cylinder filling
08-23-2022, 10:05 PM
#51
ModSquad
iTrader: (6)
We Way past Talking....
I'll answer my Own questions cheaper and Smarter Than...
2.250 valve using a 4.00 bore I'm @ .030... did they move the intake valve? 🤣😂 I built a 2.20 valve head for a 4.030 bore. Need a 2.250 test valve 4 the Spare gen IV DOD valley lq4
GG and the Thought adds up 2 me using a shorter than 6.2 valve...Smaller port @ 285 & I'd need around 282 cc..🤣😂
Using common Parts and a BS series head... MBE did it why Can't i...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ket-heads.html
answer I spoke of above. 2.240 valve & GG = this
Shrink the exhaust....
Chevelle? This is Basic Hot Rod stuff.. Not Nascar stuff.
Make it Work ... lmao....
Foot on Neck Situation....
https://www.mbellc.com/mbe-small-port-ls7
I'll answer my Own questions cheaper and Smarter Than...
2.250 valve using a 4.00 bore I'm @ .030... did they move the intake valve? 🤣😂 I built a 2.20 valve head for a 4.030 bore. Need a 2.250 test valve 4 the Spare gen IV DOD valley lq4
GG and the Thought adds up 2 me using a shorter than 6.2 valve...Smaller port @ 285 & I'd need around 282 cc..🤣😂
Using common Parts and a BS series head... MBE did it why Can't i...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...ket-heads.html
answer I spoke of above. 2.240 valve & GG = this
Shrink the exhaust....
Chevelle? This is Basic Hot Rod stuff.. Not Nascar stuff.
Make it Work ... lmao....
Foot on Neck Situation....
https://www.mbellc.com/mbe-small-port-ls7
Your enthusiasm for cylinder heads reminds me of myself about 35 years ago. I was just like you back then.
08-23-2022, 10:12 PM
#52
LOL’d at this one. I’ve spent more time on a SuperFlow than you’ve been high. There’s way, way, way more to this than just math. I know the math. I’ve also spent hundreds of hours looking for 10 more hp, only to be disapointed…in a shop with unlimited tooling and money. Your so called “uncles” or “top 1%ers” aren’t telling you the whole story. Why would they? Does it make sense to give a guy who they don’t know on a phone, all their knowledge and info? Nope.
Your enthusiasm for cylinder heads reminds me of myself about 35 years ago. I was just like you back then.
Your enthusiasm for cylinder heads reminds me of myself about 35 years ago. I was just like you back then.
Please do..
08-23-2022, 10:18 PM
#53
I called it paying more for less with results that are avg with a plastic intake and a Good porter.
You want a flat line of tq with a under size head? Let's go there..
I got 10,000 ways to make u look like a idiot... Besides what 99% of the 1% use. But you've flow heads for yrs.
What you talk about or proclaim is Avg conversations on Yb... besides that I got what u know without the time or money spent..
No Liar..nor Hate...
You want a flat line of tq with a under size head? Let's go there..
I got 10,000 ways to make u look like a idiot... Besides what 99% of the 1% use. But you've flow heads for yrs.
What you talk about or proclaim is Avg conversations on Yb... besides that I got what u know without the time or money spent..
No Liar..nor Hate...
Last edited by Corona; 08-24-2022 at 02:22 AM.
08-23-2022, 10:30 PM
#54
Chevelle... it was bait...
Go look at what I talk about on the latest threads else where and with Whom is in the conversation...
It's just a Air Pump.. I've had harder classes. This was free as it's my Hobby so no Acception of BS or a person.
You and Nascar...I've got a guy that gives more free knowledge on a Nascar Engine than you've Ever gave on the subject or about a Ls on Here..but you Nascar.
Funny ... your just a guy who has money nothing more nothing less. No hate but being something special or doing anything special your not it.
Hell you can't top making a Ls7 head cause you'd buy it and not have learned Nothing.
Go look at what I talk about on the latest threads else where and with Whom is in the conversation...
It's just a Air Pump.. I've had harder classes. This was free as it's my Hobby so no Acception of BS or a person.
You and Nascar...I've got a guy that gives more free knowledge on a Nascar Engine than you've Ever gave on the subject or about a Ls on Here..but you Nascar.
Funny ... your just a guy who has money nothing more nothing less. No hate but being something special or doing anything special your not it.
Hell you can't top making a Ls7 head cause you'd buy it and not have learned Nothing.
08-23-2022, 11:49 PM
#55
My dad was there the 1st yr they were able to do ASE certification....we only talking 4 stroke of a engine..
A engine I sold yrs ago still runs...
Ask the guy does he know Dirty Redd/ Paco and who the Engine came from...Andre!
A engine I sold yrs ago still runs...
Ask the guy does he know Dirty Redd/ Paco and who the Engine came from...Andre!
08-23-2022, 11:53 PM
#56
Got a call Tonight because the front and rear seal has a drip...Yrs of waiting but it does run.. Rob has 2 many cars...this was a convertible. I don't touch that anylonger...Just my own brakes!
let's not talk about the 383 I sold to get into a Ls.....
There's a reason it's Tattoo'ed ... I thought to myself I'm selling my baby to Take over with Junk from baby.
let's not talk about the 383 I sold to get into a Ls.....
There's a reason it's Tattoo'ed ... I thought to myself I'm selling my baby to Take over with Junk from baby.
Last edited by Corona; 08-23-2022 at 11:59 PM.
08-24-2022, 01:39 AM
#57
Dummies didn't figure I've done a engine or engines 🤐 (and I do Everything with paperwork and or stuff Seen). I came here wanting to know but Never Got a Real answer to my most Formulated questions..Y? Cause there's really no Professionals but a MF who thinks there Professional on Heads. Hell I didn't know CSA here until ER..So! Skip you and A guy or bandwagon. I said from the start what I was here 4 One reason Cylinder Heads. its a Take Over on a Air Pump.
Tell your guy to come over ...Any question you or he may have to stump me I've got Answers non of which was given here. It’s just a text or thread away... if you or he wants to get technical.. you talking about my 1%
Y is your guy not doing a CID casting? Real talk and all of my Uncle's offer a program.
They say don't Step on toes...What you thought would happen if a 408 made 430 cube or a Name hp with less. Like he did something special.
let me show you How much I'm a leader. I once Said 800 is street and seen as a Daily.. Now what's the new Goal 4 the upper class Ls NA & DD?
I'll wait..
🤣😂 when you where sleep I was finding Answers and also found who 2 talk 2.. yrs ago!
Remember a WJ conversation I spoke on , lil guy and you cohorts...so who's Who? And who I call my Uncle's?
Got tooo much time invested for a rich Buster 2 tell me anything. The formula was Free!
Tell your guy to come over ...Any question you or he may have to stump me I've got Answers non of which was given here. It’s just a text or thread away... if you or he wants to get technical.. you talking about my 1%
Y is your guy not doing a CID casting? Real talk and all of my Uncle's offer a program.
They say don't Step on toes...What you thought would happen if a 408 made 430 cube or a Name hp with less. Like he did something special.
let me show you How much I'm a leader. I once Said 800 is street and seen as a Daily.. Now what's the new Goal 4 the upper class Ls NA & DD?
I'll wait..
🤣😂 when you where sleep I was finding Answers and also found who 2 talk 2.. yrs ago!
Remember a WJ conversation I spoke on , lil guy and you cohorts...so who's Who? And who I call my Uncle's?
Got tooo much time invested for a rich Buster 2 tell me anything. The formula was Free!
Last edited by Corona; 08-24-2022 at 02:25 AM.
08-24-2022, 02:04 AM
#58
No hate just like a ET or Hp number... I'm dialed in
🤨 and I wanna Win or be one of the Best of ..it's a Hobby. Reason my Broke *** is in it..
Also the reason 4 the 1%
🤣😂 I came from the bottom and wanted 2 be @ the top.. I just don't touch them any longer 🤫
🤨 and I wanna Win or be one of the Best of ..it's a Hobby. Reason my Broke *** is in it..
Also the reason 4 the 1%
🤣😂 I came from the bottom and wanted 2 be @ the top.. I just don't touch them any longer 🤫
Last edited by Corona; 08-24-2022 at 02:20 AM.
08-24-2022, 06:48 AM
#60
ModSquad
iTrader: (6)
Not worth a response. You’ll never understand Corona. We’ve been over this and over this.
Question for you to ponder on today…top 1%ers will be calling you with questions-might even give you incentive to go build yet another cylinder head…where does the port start and stop?
Question for you to ponder on today…top 1%ers will be calling you with questions-might even give you incentive to go build yet another cylinder head…where does the port start and stop?