we just got our 2nd C6 today and it leaks tranny fluid
09-23-2004, 09:54 PM
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we just got our 2nd C6 today and it leaks tranny fluid well today i saw our 2nd C6 come in. this ones an A4 peweter coupe. as it was getting its pre delivery inspection i decided to check out the under body and found a pretty bad tranny leak. after closer inspection, it seems to be comeing from the front oil seal or pump seal. eather way the tranny has to come out. unfortenetly i just got another job and will not be able to do it. 
would of been nice to be one of the first to fix one under warrenty.
would of been nice to be one of the first to fix one under warrenty. 
09-23-2004, 10:11 PM
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Looks like it still comes in pewter or "machine silver metallic"
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/colors.jsp
That sucks take it baccckkkkkkk....
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/colors.jsp
That sucks take it baccckkkkkkk....
09-24-2004, 11:37 AM
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would of been nice to be one of the first to fix one under warrenty.
09-24-2004, 01:53 PM
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Here's the link to my thread about my best friend's car. Anyways, I'm just trying to keep count on the actual problems we find.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...41#post1806441
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...41#post1806441
09-24-2004, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Looks like it still comes in pewter or "machine silver metallic"
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/colors.jsp
That sucks take it baccckkkkkkk....
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/colors.jsp
That sucks take it baccckkkkkkk....
....But I have plans for when I do 
By then a C5 ought to be nice and cheap. 
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09-24-2004, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Looks like it still comes in pewter or "machine silver metallic"
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/colors.jsp
That sucks take it baccckkkkkkk....
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/colors.jsp
That sucks take it baccckkkkkkk....
09-24-2004, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jd13
My best friend's parents are having their tranny rebuilt under warrantly. 52 miles on it (a4 also) and it went. Dealer said the "bolts were loose" from the factory. They probably had the same problem you described but didn't notice it.
09-25-2004, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WS-Sick
Must be the lighting... How do you like the color in person? Do you like it better than pewter metallic on f-bodies?
Do you like it better than pewter metallic on f-bodies?on another note, i noticed that the window sticker says 6-speed but the car is an auto
that was too funny. 
09-25-2004, 06:10 PM
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I hate to say it guys, but GM can't build a car anymore to save their butts. I am not surprised there are problems already. You would think they would give a crap about the reputation of their flagship product, but apparently not.
09-25-2004, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Another_User
I hate to say it guys, but GM can't build a car anymore to save their butts. I am not surprised there are problems already. You would think they would give a crap about the reputation of their flagship product, but apparently not.
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I used to know a guy that worked for GM making engines quite a few years back, when they were still making the C4. He told me a story about how a quite a few new Corvettes left the factory with a minor flaw. The flaw? They forgot to put cam bearings in the engines. GM having bad quality control is not a new thing.
10-21-2004, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Another_User
I used to know a guy that worked for GM making engines quite a few years back, when they were still making the C4. He told me a story about how a quite a few new Corvettes left the factory with a minor flaw. The flaw? They forgot to put cam bearings in the engines. GM having bad quality control is not a new thing.
10-22-2004, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stoleit
there is one tranny leak on one c6. it happens. not the end of the corvette quality control as we know it.
10-22-2004, 12:18 PM
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Found it (from corvetteforum)
Mis-Machined Transmission Countershaft Snap
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Service Bulletin 04-07-29-003
Mis-Machined Transmission Countershaft Snap
Ring Groove (Inspect/Replace the Transmission)
DATE: October 21, 2004
SUBJECT: Service Bulletin 04-07-29-003
Mis-Machined Transmission Countershaft Snap
Ring Groove (Inspect/Replace the Transmission)
MODELS: 2005 Chevrolet Corvette
2005 Cadillac CTS-V
with 6-speed manual transmission
Corvette Transmission, Manual 6-SPD, Tremec
(RPO MM6 or MZ6)
CTS-V Transmission, Manual 6-SPD, Tremec
(RPO M12)
and included in the attached VIN list
TO: All Cadillac and Chevrolet Dealers
ATTENTION: Dealer, General Manager, Sales Manager,
Service Manager, Parts Manager and
Warranty Administrator
IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED
Advanced Service Bulletin 04-07-29-003 is being released today and advises dealers to inspect for the mismachined transmission countershaft snap ring groove. Dealers will perform a transmission snap clutch maneuver and if necessary, replace the transmission.
In addition to using this procedure to repair vehicles with this complaint, we are requesting that this repair be performed on all vehicles currently in your inventory that are included in this Administrative Message VIN list. Completion of this procedure prior to vehicle sale or delivery will help ensure customer satisfaction and reduce the possibility of future complaints.
We are also requesting you contact the DBC to report owner information for any recently delivered vehicles.
Please see the attached VIN list and bulletin for detailed instructions. The list of involved vehicles is also included in the attached bulletin.
ADVANCED SERVICE INFORMATION
Subject: Mismachined Transmission Countershaft Snap Ring Groove
(Inspect/Replace Transmission)
Models: 2005 Chevrolet Corvette with Manual 6–Speed Tremec Transmission
(RPOs MM6, MZ6)
2005 Cadillac CTS-V with Manual 6–Speed Tremec Transmission (RPO M12)
Attention: This correction should be performed on all vehicles currently in your inventory that are included in the Administrative Message (U.S.) or Dealer Communication
(Canada) VIN list prior to sale or delivery. In Canada, the Dealer Communication and VIN list is distributed to affected dealers only.
File In Section: 07 - Transmission/Transaxle
Bulletin No.: 04-07-29-003
Date: October, 2004 Service Bulletin
Copyright 2004 General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
Condition
Some of the 6-speed transmissions in the subject
vehicles may have been assembled with an extension
countershaft snap ring grove dimension that was
machined out of specification. This condition may result
in fore and aft / back and forth movement of the shift
lever when in 5th gear, then 5th or 6th gear clash
noise, and eventual premature wear of the 5th and/or
6th gear synchronizer.
Correction
Dealers will inspect for this condition by performing a
transmission snap clutch maneuver and, if necessary,
replace the transmission.
Page 4 Bulletin No.: 04-07-29-003 October, 2004
Transmission Snap Clutch 5th Gear Test Procedure
1. Raise and support the vehicle so that the rear
wheels are safely off the ground. Refer to Lifting
and Jacking the Vehicle in General Information:
• Corvette – SI Document ID #104056.
• CTS-V – SI Document ID #813128
2. Start the vehicle.
Important: Ensure that the transmission is not in
Reverse and that the wheel speed is zero.
3. Depress the clutch pedal to the floor.
4. Shift the transmission into 5th gear and remove
your hand from the shift ****.
5. Increase the engine speed to 2,000 RPM.
Important:
• The shift lever should have NO fore-aft / back and
forth motion when the clutch is released.
• On a very small number of vehicles, the shift lever
may move slightly rearward only once. This is a
normal characteristic.
• The shift lever WILL have some lateral / side to
side motion which will occur due to torque roll of
the powertrain.
• If the shift lever moves, it will be toward 6th gear
(rearward) and the magnitude could be
4 mm – 8 mm (0.16 in – 0.31 in) at the shift lever
**** and will repeat each time the clutch is
snapped.
6. Quickly release the clutch pedal and watch to see
if the shift lever has any fore-aft movement.
• If the shift lever DOES NOT move fore-aft, or
moves very slightly, about 2 mm (0.079 in),
repeat the test sequence Steps 3 to 6 for a total
of 10 times to ensure there is no shifter lever
movement. If the shift lever does not move other
than once very slightly after 10 cycles of test
sequence, the transmission is OK. No additional
repair is necessary and the inspection labor
operation may be claimed.
• If the shift lever DOES move fore-aft, repeat
the test sequence Steps 3 to 6 to confirm the
shifter lever movement. If the shifter lever does
move fore-aft, continue with the next step.
Important: The following test is for comparison purpose
only. The 3rd gear amount of fore-aft movement is
allowable.
7. Perform a comparison test with the shifter in 3rd
gear. Compare the amount of fore-aft movement
with the shifter in 3rd gear and 5th gear while
performing test sequence Steps 3 to 6.
• If the amount of fore-aft shifter lever movement
is the same in 3rd gear as 5th, or if only slight
movement occurs once in 5th gear, no
additional repair is necessary and the inspection
labor operation may be claimed.
• If the amount of fore-aft shifter lever movement
is greater in 5th gear than in 3rd gear, continue
with the next step.
8. Replace the transmission. Refer to Transmission
Replacement:
• Corvette — Document ID #1399623
• CTS-V — Document ID #1523514
Dealer Action For Sold Units On VIN List
It is possible that some vehicles on the VIN list may
have been sold.
For sold units in the U.S., the dealer is to call the
Dealer Business Center (DBC) and provide them with the customers’
information. In Canada, the dealer is to send the
customers’ information by fax to the GM of Canada
Warranty Department
Parts Information
Dealers are to contact the Product Quality Center (PQC)
to confirm diagnosis and to obtain
approval for part replacement.
Due to parts availability, the PQC will handle all orders.
Warranty Information
The labor time guide has been changed to reflect the
times in this bulletin.
Labor
Operation Description Labor Time
K9701 Transmission Inspection
Procedure 0.4 hr
K2720
Transmission/Transaxle
Assembly - Replace
Corvette
4.5 hrs
K2720
Transmission/Transaxle
Assembly - Replace
CTS-V
2.0 hrs
Bulletin No.: 04-07-29-003 Page 5 October, 2004
GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a ″do-it-yourselfer″. They are written to inform these
technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of
a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and
safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that
condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Service Bulletin 04-07-29-003
Mis-Machined Transmission Countershaft Snap
Ring Groove (Inspect/Replace the Transmission)
DATE: October 21, 2004
SUBJECT: Service Bulletin 04-07-29-003
Mis-Machined Transmission Countershaft Snap
Ring Groove (Inspect/Replace the Transmission)
MODELS: 2005 Chevrolet Corvette
2005 Cadillac CTS-V
with 6-speed manual transmission
Corvette Transmission, Manual 6-SPD, Tremec
(RPO MM6 or MZ6)
CTS-V Transmission, Manual 6-SPD, Tremec
(RPO M12)
and included in the attached VIN list
TO: All Cadillac and Chevrolet Dealers
ATTENTION: Dealer, General Manager, Sales Manager,
Service Manager, Parts Manager and
Warranty Administrator
IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED
Advanced Service Bulletin 04-07-29-003 is being released today and advises dealers to inspect for the mismachined transmission countershaft snap ring groove. Dealers will perform a transmission snap clutch maneuver and if necessary, replace the transmission.
In addition to using this procedure to repair vehicles with this complaint, we are requesting that this repair be performed on all vehicles currently in your inventory that are included in this Administrative Message VIN list. Completion of this procedure prior to vehicle sale or delivery will help ensure customer satisfaction and reduce the possibility of future complaints.
We are also requesting you contact the DBC to report owner information for any recently delivered vehicles.
Please see the attached VIN list and bulletin for detailed instructions. The list of involved vehicles is also included in the attached bulletin.
ADVANCED SERVICE INFORMATION
Subject: Mismachined Transmission Countershaft Snap Ring Groove
(Inspect/Replace Transmission)
Models: 2005 Chevrolet Corvette with Manual 6–Speed Tremec Transmission
(RPOs MM6, MZ6)
2005 Cadillac CTS-V with Manual 6–Speed Tremec Transmission (RPO M12)
Attention: This correction should be performed on all vehicles currently in your inventory that are included in the Administrative Message (U.S.) or Dealer Communication
(Canada) VIN list prior to sale or delivery. In Canada, the Dealer Communication and VIN list is distributed to affected dealers only.
File In Section: 07 - Transmission/Transaxle
Bulletin No.: 04-07-29-003
Date: October, 2004 Service Bulletin
Copyright 2004 General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
Condition
Some of the 6-speed transmissions in the subject
vehicles may have been assembled with an extension
countershaft snap ring grove dimension that was
machined out of specification. This condition may result
in fore and aft / back and forth movement of the shift
lever when in 5th gear, then 5th or 6th gear clash
noise, and eventual premature wear of the 5th and/or
6th gear synchronizer.
Correction
Dealers will inspect for this condition by performing a
transmission snap clutch maneuver and, if necessary,
replace the transmission.
Page 4 Bulletin No.: 04-07-29-003 October, 2004
Transmission Snap Clutch 5th Gear Test Procedure
1. Raise and support the vehicle so that the rear
wheels are safely off the ground. Refer to Lifting
and Jacking the Vehicle in General Information:
• Corvette – SI Document ID #104056.
• CTS-V – SI Document ID #813128
2. Start the vehicle.
Important: Ensure that the transmission is not in
Reverse and that the wheel speed is zero.
3. Depress the clutch pedal to the floor.
4. Shift the transmission into 5th gear and remove
your hand from the shift ****.
5. Increase the engine speed to 2,000 RPM.
Important:
• The shift lever should have NO fore-aft / back and
forth motion when the clutch is released.
• On a very small number of vehicles, the shift lever
may move slightly rearward only once. This is a
normal characteristic.
• The shift lever WILL have some lateral / side to
side motion which will occur due to torque roll of
the powertrain.
• If the shift lever moves, it will be toward 6th gear
(rearward) and the magnitude could be
4 mm – 8 mm (0.16 in – 0.31 in) at the shift lever
**** and will repeat each time the clutch is
snapped.
6. Quickly release the clutch pedal and watch to see
if the shift lever has any fore-aft movement.
• If the shift lever DOES NOT move fore-aft, or
moves very slightly, about 2 mm (0.079 in),
repeat the test sequence Steps 3 to 6 for a total
of 10 times to ensure there is no shifter lever
movement. If the shift lever does not move other
than once very slightly after 10 cycles of test
sequence, the transmission is OK. No additional
repair is necessary and the inspection labor
operation may be claimed.
• If the shift lever DOES move fore-aft, repeat
the test sequence Steps 3 to 6 to confirm the
shifter lever movement. If the shifter lever does
move fore-aft, continue with the next step.
Important: The following test is for comparison purpose
only. The 3rd gear amount of fore-aft movement is
allowable.
7. Perform a comparison test with the shifter in 3rd
gear. Compare the amount of fore-aft movement
with the shifter in 3rd gear and 5th gear while
performing test sequence Steps 3 to 6.
• If the amount of fore-aft shifter lever movement
is the same in 3rd gear as 5th, or if only slight
movement occurs once in 5th gear, no
additional repair is necessary and the inspection
labor operation may be claimed.
• If the amount of fore-aft shifter lever movement
is greater in 5th gear than in 3rd gear, continue
with the next step.
8. Replace the transmission. Refer to Transmission
Replacement:
• Corvette — Document ID #1399623
• CTS-V — Document ID #1523514
Dealer Action For Sold Units On VIN List
It is possible that some vehicles on the VIN list may
have been sold.
For sold units in the U.S., the dealer is to call the
Dealer Business Center (DBC) and provide them with the customers’
information. In Canada, the dealer is to send the
customers’ information by fax to the GM of Canada
Warranty Department
Parts Information
Dealers are to contact the Product Quality Center (PQC)
to confirm diagnosis and to obtain
approval for part replacement.
Due to parts availability, the PQC will handle all orders.
Warranty Information
The labor time guide has been changed to reflect the
times in this bulletin.
Labor
Operation Description Labor Time
K9701 Transmission Inspection
Procedure 0.4 hr
K2720
Transmission/Transaxle
Assembly - Replace
Corvette
4.5 hrs
K2720
Transmission/Transaxle
Assembly - Replace
CTS-V
2.0 hrs
Bulletin No.: 04-07-29-003 Page 5 October, 2004
GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a ″do-it-yourselfer″. They are written to inform these
technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of
a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and
safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that
condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION
10-23-2004, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by minivette
There is already a TSB out on M6 transmission replacement. It was on corvette forum but it seems to have vanished.