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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Well I finally made it to the track to test out this intake n 90 mm TB.

This is on a 346cid stock shortblock, PP LS6 StgII heads, G5X3 camshaft,
3500lb race weight.

With the LS6 and ported TB The car ran consistent 11.40s @121mph N/A.

With the LS2 and TPIS 90mm TB The best trap I could muster was 116.

I never Dynoed with the LS6 intake.
Made 399.8 SAE corrected with the LS2 after tuning.

I knew those numbers were low but had nothing to compare them to untill I went to the track.
Looks like I lost nearly 50 hp.

This setup will probably do great on a larger cid motor. But did horrible on my 346.

It would not get out of the hole to save its life. I launched at 6500 rpm pulled the tires a foot off the ground n then it would bog n fall on its face.

Looks like I will be getting another LS6 or a fast 78mm intake.

Sorry to dissapoint, But now some results are in.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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Holy ****... that's terrible. Are you going to dyno again after swaping back to the LS6 intake?
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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Holy ****... that's terrible. Are you going to dyno again after swaping back to the LS6 intake?

Yeah you can bet that I will. And I will post up the results. I only waited this long as I had no base line Dyno numbers with the LS6.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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I suspected as much. It's probably the same thing with the FAST intake too.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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I suspected as much. It's probably the same thing with the FAST intake too.
Probably but I did not want to spend 1200 bucks to find out. Not that I didn't drop some cash on this setup. But I figured it was worth a try.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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Was all other variables the same on both runs? Track prep., weather, etc.? All that makes a big difference. Without dyno graphs comparing the 2, theres no real way to say if the LS2 helped or made things worse.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Trust me it made things worse. I was running Hoosier quicktime pros with the LS6 intake in worse weather.
It trapped 121 consistently on 3 trips to the track with about 12 to 15 passes.

I was running M/T et drags today and the D/A was 265. Not sure of the D/A with the LS6 but it was no where near as good.

With the Qtps I could not launch above 5500 without blowing the tires off.
The ET Drags did not Spin AT ALL on any of the 4 passes I made today and I was launching the dog crap out of it.

I cut 1.57s with the QTPs launching at 5500.
Today I cut a 1.65 and a couple of 1.7s launching at 6000 and 6500 rpm.

The car feels alot slower down the track too.
It just does not pull like it did with the LS6.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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One thing I forgot to mention. Those track times with the ls6 intake were on a Mail Order Tune!

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Well i was planning on going with a ls2 but now its looking like the trusty LS6 and a ported TB.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Strange. So many people were saying that it would perform a lot better than the LS6.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WS-Sick
Strange. So many people were saying that it would perform a lot better than the LS6.
Maybe on a car with a lot more cubic inches. The way it sounds to me, the manifold really doesn't have better flow, it just has more volume.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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so just throw it into the corner and put it on when you do a 408 or so..... or i could trade you my ls6 intake, ported TB, fuel rail, and whatever else we'd need to swap plus 100 bux for your setup
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ramairstyle00
so just throw it into the corner and put it on when you do a 408 or so..... or i could trade you my ls6 intake, ported TB, fuel rail, and whatever else we'd need to swap plus 100 bux for your setup
I am considering hanging onto it but I don't have Big cubes in my future. I want to stay with a 347. All I need to go back to an ls6 is an intake n tb. I have 2 sets of ls1/6 rails here.
Who knows, this set up may work well with a big shot of gas.

I am pondering the FAST 78mm intake as it can be ported easily. I would trade my entire setup minus the injectors for a FAST 78mm intake.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WS-Sick
Strange. So many people were saying that it would perform a lot better than the LS6.

Thats why I posted up. Now we have some DownRange feedback.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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So you'll give me a sweet deal on the LS2/Fuel Rail/TPIS TB, right?

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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I wouldn't let this make up your mind. Something is not right. The intake shouldn't drop the numbers like that, there is more then meets the eye. Also a 6sp car wouldn't be killed by the torque drop that a ls2 intake would cause. Its not drasticly different from a ls6 intake (runner and volume). Other then the 90mm throttle body.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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I'd be more than curious to try this with a smaller throttle body. I would say the 90mm throttle body is what's hurting you and not the intake.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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You said you switched to ET drags....what size? If they were 28x10.5's you could very well attribute the loss of 60ft and of mph to having too much tire. What gear? Gonna need some more info. I would go back to the track with the the QTP's and see what happens.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hellbents10
I wouldn't let this make up your mind. Something is not right. The intake shouldn't drop the numbers like that, there is more then meets the eye. Also a 6sp car wouldn't be killed by the torque drop that a ls2 intake would cause. Its not drasticly different from a ls6 intake (runner and volume). Other then the 90mm throttle body.

I havnt made up my mind. I will be checkin every thing out tomorrow. The only changes were the intake n tb and tuning though. It runs fine. I will run a compression test on it in the morning.

FWIW on the street it drives great. Feels better than the ls6 but probably because of the tb letting more air in at part throttle.

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BlkBeaSSt
You said you switched to ET drags....what size? If they were 28x10.5's you could very well attribute the loss of 60ft and of mph to having too much tire. What gear? Gonna need some more info. I would go back to the track with the the QTP's and see what happens.
Same tire size. 28"
4.33 gear in the nine inch.
Trust me guys all changes have been listed.

Those E/T drags are the Shiz!
Here is a pic from today
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