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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Has anyone had a resleeved stroker shortblock built and assembled by Race Engine Developments.
I know people use his blocks ls2 wet and dry sleeved blocks, but what about a complete short block.
Like a 454 or 447 cubic inch.

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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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I stopped in and seen Steve's operation, because like myself I was a little unsure. Looks top notch to me. My block started it's journey back today with 4.185 dry sleeves. He seems very knowledgeable.
He had one of the more expensive viper blocks there he had to resleeve into a MID. He also had a couple of Ferrari blocks sitting there waiting to be resleeved and done up into short blocks.
He does alot of research for Darton also.
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I would have had him build the whole thing. But I've put together many small blocks so it's time to try an LS ? A more cost effective way is naturally the LSx block. But not many people want to stuff an additional 100 + lbs over the front tires, especially me.

Sorry I can't vouch for one of his short blocks, but thought I'd put in my .02 worth.
Good luck.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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I stopped in and seen Steve's operation, because like myself I was a little unsure. Looks top notch to me. My block started it's journey back today with 4.185 dry sleeves. He seems very knowledgeable.
He had one of the more expensive viper blocks there he had to resleeve into a MID. He also had a couple of Ferrari blocks sitting there waiting to be resleeved and done up into short blocks.
He does alot of research for Darton also.
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I would have had him build the whole thing. But I've put together many small blocks so it's time to try an LS ? A more cost effective way is naturally the LSx block. But not many people want to stuff an additional 100 + lbs over the front tires, especially me.

Sorry I can't vouch for one of his short blocks, but thought I'd put in my .02 worth.
Good luck.

Thank you for you input.

Nobody else?
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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I have heard nothig but good things about RED and also know that ERIK KOENIG of HKE Racing recommends using RED's block for big cubed 470+ cid LS engines and knowing ERIK's stellar reputation this would give me a TON OF CONFIDENCE!
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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Thanks guys for the input.

I think I will go with RED to build and assemble me a Darton resleeved ls2 454 shortblock right away.
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Old Oct 12, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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When I talked to him about that not long ago he told me he doesn't do builds, that he is far too busy with sleeving work to do anything else. Good luck.

There are some other builders who use RED blocks.
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When I talked to him about that not long ago he told me he doesn't do builds, that he is far too busy with sleeving work to do anything else. Good luck.

There are some other builders who use RED blocks.
I talked to him this week, and he said he would do a build in his slow periods.
Like around christmas, but only if there were no blocks on the go.

What the hell I think I will give RED a try. If many other builders use his block , why not.

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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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I talked to him this week, and he said he would do a build in his slow periods.
Like around christmas, but only if there were no block on the go.
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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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I've exchanged email with Stephan Demirjian, he definitely knows his stuff as mentioned above. He'll do a dry sleeve up to 4.190" on an LS2 for $1,550, and M.I.D. wet sleeve up to 4.200" for $1,400. If he sources the LS2 block, he'll stress relieve it and supply it for $1,100, cheap if you consider shipping blocks across the country. The biggest bore he recommends for a power adder is 4.150". Either type of sleeve supports a stroke to 4.250". Wet sleeves would require special coolant to prevent cavitation around the sleeves which start pitting the sleeves.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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I've exchanged email with Stephan Demirjian, he definitely knows his stuff as mentioned above. He'll do a dry sleeve up to 4.190" on an LS2 for $1,550, and M.I.D. wet sleeve up to 4.200" for $1,400. If he sources the LS2 block, he'll stress relieve it and supply it for $1,100, cheap if you consider shipping blocks across the country. The biggest bore he recommends for a power adder is 4.150". Either type of sleeve supports a stroke to 4.250". Wet sleeves would require special coolant to prevent cavitation around the sleeves which start pitting the sleeves.

RED seems to have a very good rep. I am leaning towards a Darton 447 ls2 dry sleeve that way I have room left over for a rebuild.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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I will tell you this. If ERIK KOENIG of HKE Racing uses him he must be top notch. I will alwasy use Erik! Great guy and does awsome work! I love the 408 He built for me!!
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Here's pics that Steve shot of my block.

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Steve (RED) worked with Darton directly to design/engineer the sleeves used in our blocks. I think if Darton trusts his work, anyone should.

My .02

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by davidws6
Here's pics that Steve shot of my block.
NICE!!!

I am going to get my 447 project rolling very soon!!!
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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i would rather go for a LSX block. Sleeves wont drop and its very strong. The fact its orange also helps. Looks good too.
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Originally Posted by Order 66
i would rather go for a LSX block. Sleeves wont drop and its very strong. The fact its orange also helps. Looks good too.
The LSX block is cool, but 100lbs to the front end of my 3540 lbs car is not the most helpful thing for going fast.

The Darton LS2 dry sleeves have a lip on the top of the liner, that makes it impossible to drop a sleeve.

It is also a dry sleeve so you don`t have to worry about coolant.

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