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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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In the article found in http://www.thetorquereport.com states that this engine is made for E85 ethanol. Can I correctly presume that the stated power numbers are with E85 pump gas?
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CETA_TransAm
how much is estimated price ? around 6k ?
Mabye for the block?
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CETA_TransAm
what the est. price on the motor ur going to sale to the public ?
We are still working on pricing.

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In the article found in http://www.thetorquereport.com states that this engine is made for E85 ethanol. Can I correctly presume that the stated power numbers are with E85 pump gas?
Some will, some wont. The current figure is 600/600 on gasoline.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fafnir
would you happed to have any pictures of the engine out of the car? or is that still under NDA?

Not yet.

also, what other innovations are there in this engine, block included, that is *new*?

Katech 4.205 LS7 style pistons

e.g. does this block include all the innovations of the LS7? is the block a forged billet version of the LS7 or LS1, but just with a taller deck? what about when compared against the LSX? in terms of tech content? say is it some sort of the billet LS1 block that dart offers already but just tall deck?

Billet version of the LS7 with a taller deck.

and also, what is the exact material used in the block? e.g. 6061-T6?? and do you have tensile strength numbers vs lets say the stuff used in a C5R or LS7?

6061-T6, no

and what about a dyno graph or something?

Not released yet

also, would the block fit into a stock C6? what kind of stuff would someone installing this engine into a C6 or Z06 need? e.g. custom accessory brackets? custom headers? and are there any other fitment issues?

Yes, with no fitment issues

and how would the engine do under boost? is it sensitive?

A billet block would be great under boost

what kind of dry sump is used in the engine?

LS7 dry sump or aftermarket

and also, besides the intake manifold and i guess the oil pan, what else is recycled from an LS7?

Heads, valvetrain, covers

i'm in the market for a new engine *right now* and would appreciate it if you could take the time to answer some of these questions



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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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i thought u used the stock cam also ?
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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This new block sounds awesome. Big cubes, aluminum, tall deck, nikasil lining. I can't wait to see what it costs. Does it have the capacities for the 6 head bolts or does it utilize a traditional setup?
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CETA_TransAm
i thought u used the stock cam also ?

The C6RS engine uses a near stock cam. Off-road only variations such as the Track Attack 500 could use more aggressive camshafts.

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This new block sounds awesome. Big cubes, aluminum, tall deck, nikasil lining. I can't wait to see what it costs. Does it have the capacities for the 6 head bolts or does it utilize a traditional setup?
Traditional
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BLK02TA
Mabye for the block?

This may take the wind out of many sails here, but, not even close.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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I would not be surprised at all if that block is $15K or more...
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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that sucks guess ill have to go with the lsx
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Katech
This may take the wind out of many sails here, but, not even close.

There are lots of cool things in this world and on this site that I can't afford, or more accurately, can't buy without my wife kicking me to the curb, but that doesn't make it any less exciting or cool. I'm guessing that the C6rs that belongs to Leno may make an appearance on the Powet Tour next year and that's a good thing. He seems to have a car or two on display every year. Maybe once he retires he'll actually do the tour with the rest of us common folks.


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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
I would not be surprised at all if that block is $15K or more...

FYI Dart will build a billet block custom to order for half that..Why would you be surprised?
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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This is not just a normal block. That Nicom coating is NOT cheap..
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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u could fully build a lsx block for half that
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
I would not be surprised at all if that block is $15K or more...
It is not that much.

Originally Posted by sr71bbjr
FYI Dart will build a billet block custom to order for half that..Why would you be surprised?
This block is made by Dart exclusively for Katech. You cannot buy it anywhere else. You can buy a Dart billet block directly from them, but not in this configuration.

Originally Posted by CETA_TransAm
u could fully build a lsx block for half that
Lets not turn this into a debate about what you can build on a budget.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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srry dont mean to make a debate just wondering y it so pricey
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CETA_TransAm
srry dont mean to make a debate just wondering y it so pricey
The standard Dart billet block is expensive already. This is a new variation of that block, taller deck, more crankshaft clearanace. Then it is sent out to US Chrome for NiCom coating. Hot honing at Katech (just like the LS7.R) and final machining. It adds up.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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o so that coating would last the life of a street car ?
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CETA_TransAm
o so that coating would last the life of a street car ?

Yes, I can't see you ever wearing it out. We run 24 hours of Le Mans with the LS7.R's Nikasil coated bores and they are very durable. A 24 hours endurance race is more grueling than anything on the street.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
There are lots of cool things in this world and on this site that I can't afford, or more accurately, can't buy without my wife kicking me to the curb, but that doesn't make it any less exciting or cool. I'm guessing that the C6rs that belongs to Leno may make an appearance on the Powet Tour next year and that's a good thing. He seems to have a car or two on display every year. Maybe once he retires he'll actually do the tour with the rest of us common folks.


Sorry for the thread-jacking, I tend to go off on tangents some times.
I agree. There's so many things on this site that amaze me. Even if I know I'll never own them they still impress me. I love new products and innovative designs. That's why I'm majoring in mechanical engineering.

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The standard Dart billet block is expensive already. This is a new variation of that block, taller deck, more crankshaft clearanace. Then it is sent out to US Chrome for NiCom coating. Hot honing at Katech (just like the LS7.R) and final machining. It adds up.
Very quickly is my guess.
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