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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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i have a 2000 ss and am putting an 07 ls2 motor in it. i already pulled the crank and put a new relucter wheel on, what else do i need. the cam i am using uses the ls1 design(3 bolts) and my motor has the 1 center bolt design. what all do i have to do to make this work. sensors, wiring, cam sprockets,etc

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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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So you've already fitted the 24x crank reluctor wheel. 12559353

For that you will need the black crank sensor. 12560228
Your car might already have this.

Cam gear 12576407



Cam Chain Damper 12588670
You need to use the black one in conjunction with the earlier LS2 cam gear.


Cam sensor, you can use the one that came fitted in the 2007 LS2 front cover.
Cam sensor wiring extension [Caspers, Racetronics, Katech and others]

Knock sensors LS1 type 12589867
Open up the LS2 knock sensor bosses to M10 and screw in LS1 sensors
Knock sensor wiring extensions [Caspers, Racetronics, Katech and others]

MAF sensor wiring extension [Caspers, Racetronics, Katech and others]
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HSV-GTS-300
So you've already fitted the 24x crank reluctor wheel. 12559353

For that you will need the black crank sensor. 12560228
Your car might already have this.

Cam gear 12576407



Cam Chain Damper 12588670
You need to use the black one in conjunction with the earlier LS2 cam gear.


Cam sensor, you can use the one that came fitted in the 2007 LS2 front cover.
Cam sensor wiring extension [Caspers, Racetronics, Katech and others]

Knock sensors LS1 type 12589867
Open up the LS2 knock sensor bosses to M10 and screw in LS1 sensors
Knock sensor wiring extensions [Caspers, Racetronics, Katech and others]

MAF sensor wiring extension [Caspers, Racetronics, Katech and others]
so why are the covers different part number, i cant use the 2007 timing cover with the 2x sprocket?
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by greinder03
so why are the covers different part number, i cant use the 2007 timing cover with the 2x sprocket?
Timing covers are probably a different part number because they come with the cam sensor already fitted. The LS2 05 timing cover will have the 2x sensor. Later covers will have the 4x sensor.

If somebody had to buy a new cover it's probably best to shoot for the one with the technically correct cam sensor in it. (If that part number is even still available).

But the 2007 LS2 front cover with the 4x cam sensor will work with the old 2005 LS2 2x cam gear.
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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A little birdie told me that the 12596023 cover has been superceded by the 12600325 cover. Not fact but I do trust my source
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 2manycars
A little birdie told me that the 12596023 cover has been superceded by the 12600325 cover. Not fact but I do trust my source
Bump too an old thread. This is the case since we ordered one that now you get the 325 cover so if this is the case is it giving you the 4x cam sensor too?
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Yes
And the sensor still works with the 05 LS2 cam gear.
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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How? I dont get how the old one wouldnt do it but now this new 4x will?
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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will the crank out of an 05 vette w/ the 24 tooth reluctor wheel drop into a 2000 lq4 (iron head version) if not, which covers/ sensors/ gears would i need?

thanks, Gary
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Old Apr 14, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowLS1C5
How? I dont get how the old one wouldnt do it but now this new 4x will?
Cam sprocket 12576407 (2005 LS2 spec) worked with the 2005 LS2 spec front timing cover 12596023 and it's black cam sensor.
This timing cover+sensor part number is now superceded.

New LS2 front timing cover+sensor Part No 12600325 comes with a grey cam sensor.
This will work with 2005 LS2 cam sprocket 12576407 and produce the same cam signal as an LS1 would.
It will also work with a 2006+ cam sprocket 12586481 and produce a 4x cam signal.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 10:41 AM
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so 12600325. will work with the LS1 computer?

also does rollermaster make an Gen IV kit. ?
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Bird WS6
so 12600325. will work with the LS1 computer?

also does rollermaster make an Gen IV kit. ?
Yes.
Don't know.
JP Performance does.
http://www.speedinc.com/cont.cfm?cid=C0000712
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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I have the 2003 SSS LQ9/LS1 computer with a LSX 427 24X relucter what cam sensor do I need the black one or tan colour ?

anyone also notice that the stock LS2 cam chain is on the loose side or do I need to use a chain damper ?

couldnt use a double chain on the LSX block as it hits the cam plate bolts errrrr

also bought the casper knock and cam sensor harness but noticed that the cam sensor wire colour codes are switched around at the top conector do you guys think this is a F@$!@k up or to correct something
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BlownFogger540
I have the 2003 SSS LQ9/LS1 computer with a LSX 427 24X relucter what cam sensor do I need the black one or tan colour ?
Either will work. You can't buy the front covers with black sensor anymore.

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anyone also notice that the stock LS2 cam chain is on the loose side or do I need to use a chain damper ?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by BlownFogger540
also bought the casper knock and cam sensor harness but noticed that the cam sensor wire colour codes are switched around at the top conector do you guys think this is a F@$!@k up or to correct something
For LS1 computer and LS2 cam sensor the outer wires need to cross somewhere.

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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Wow thanks for the fast info very much appreciated
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ok just trying to get this straight

im putting a ls2 in my 01 z06, the motor has front cover 12600326 and has a tan sensor

both are ok to use as long as i change the sproket to 12576407 and Cam Chain Damper 12588670

correct lol?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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what about using this
http://www.lingenfelter.com/document...nsv0.2beta.pdf
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OK, if you put an ls2 in an F body you will need the LS2 timing chain and gear set, the ls2 timing cover 12600325 (the cam sensor that comes with the cover will work with the cam gears and the ls1 PCM) and you need to use the ls2 timing chain dampener 12588670, along with the wire extensions. Is that right?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by camarorat
OK, if you put an ls2 in an F body you will need the LS2 timing chain and gear set, the ls2 timing cover 12600325 (the cam sensor that comes with the cover will work with the cam gears and the ls1 PCM) and you need to use the ls2 timing chain dampener 12588670, along with the wire extensions. Is that right?
Yes.
You also need a 24x reluctor on the crankshaft and a black crank sensor.
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Originally Posted by 89Formulaws6
ok just trying to get this straight

im putting a ls2 in my 01 z06, the motor has front cover 12600326 and has a tan sensor

both are ok to use as long as i change the sproket to 12576407 and Cam Chain Damper 12588670

correct lol?
bump for answer lol
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