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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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Default Please help-solid roller lifters. which ones????

i have talked to many places and no one seems to know what i really need.

comp cams 276-773 292-748 on a 112
all pro heads ported by Weld tech2.200 intake and 1.600 exh.
14 to 1 comp t&d shaft mounts

if you need any more info let me know. i am really looking for a part number or someone who i can call who really knows what the are talking about.thanks
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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I have had good luck with the .937 Jesel lifters, key way or tie bar you can't go wrong. I think Morel makes a .904 Lifter also.
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Originally Posted by Six Speeds Inc.
I have had good luck with the .937 Jesel lifters, key way or tie bar you can't go wrong. I think Morel makes a .904 Lifter also.

i know the jesels are great peices but what is with the .937 and the .904 are they different diameters? or what?
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.937 is the lifter diameter, as well as .904 is the lifter diameter, stock lifters are .842. The .937 and .904 are not drop in lifters and require lifter bore maching as well as the bronze sleeves that go with them. The larger lifters can handle more load as they have a larger roller wheel also. You will be looking at $2700 for the Jesel lifters,$600 for the bronze bushings and possibly $600 for the lifter bore machining and honing.
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holy ****, i just saw 2700 for lifters. i just got my block for a 13 to 1 comp solid roller and did not realize it cost so much to do it right. it is going to take longer than a year to build my motor.
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 89lx-ls1
i have talked to many places and no one seems to know what i really need.

comp cams 276-773 292-748 on a 112
all pro heads ported by Weld tech2.200 intake and 1.600 exh.
14 to 1 comp t&d shaft mounts

if you need any more info let me know. i am really looking for a part number or someone who i can call who really knows what the are talking about.thanks
It depends on how much lobe lift and spring pressure you have and how high you are planning to turn it. You can certainly run .842 lifters too. There are several lifters that can work again depending on what you are doing.

Joe's setup above is the best by far with the bigger Jesel lifters but it isn't necesarily a must do for any solid roller deal. 90 per cent of guys do not run a setup like that but if you can swing it, it's probably the best.
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ok well what is an .842 lifter i can use
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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.842 Morel non-tie bar lifters here. Im using the Jesel dog bone lifter guides, but they are, for the most part, unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by Six Speeds Inc.
.937 is the lifter diameter, as well as .904 is the lifter diameter, stock lifters are .842. The .937 and .904 are not drop in lifters and require lifter bore maching as well as the bronze sleeves that go with them. The larger lifters can handle more load as they have a larger roller wheel also. You will be looking at $2700 for the Jesel lifters,$600 for the bronze bushings and possibly $600 for the lifter bore machining and honing.
And we wonder why guys go FI.
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Originally Posted by 89lx-ls1
ok well what is an .842 lifter i can use
Again it depends on the lobe lift you want. For lower lobe lifts I use the Morel drop ins and they are a good price.

For bigger lobe lifts over .400 I would do the Crowers or COmps etc.

For way bigger like over .470 Joe's big Jesels are probably the best since you are probably also running much more spring and turning more rpm.

It all depends.
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What makes a set of .937 jesel lifters 6 times more expensive than the standard .842 morels? I find the only possible explanation is price gouging. Unless they are made of pure titanium or something odd.
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Also just the much much smaller numbers of them being produced and Jesel uses the best of whatever they can get without much concern for cost so it does end up much more expensive. Better for sure, but not cost effective till you get to the point where you need them and then they may save you a lot of money over a set of lifters that fail etc. but were cheaper initially. I agree that they are crazy expensive though.
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^ I was thought of production numbers after I posted. I don't know about the materials they use, but 6x the cost is rather insane.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
^ I was thought of production numbers after I posted. I don't know about the materials they use, but 6x the cost is rather insane.
Yeah I agree with you and that's why it's hard to sell Jesel on any normal build.
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Originally Posted by racer7088
Again it depends on the lobe lift you want. For lower lobe lifts I use the Morel drop ins and they are a good price.

For bigger lobe lifts over .400 I would do the Crowers or COmps etc.

For way bigger like over .470 Joe's big Jesels are probably the best since you are probably also running much more spring and turning more rpm.

It all depends.
These lifts you're refering to, are they @50 ?
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Originally Posted by JBM
.842 Morel non-tie bar lifters here. Im using the Jesel dog bone lifter guides, but they are, for the most part, unnecessary.
why would you use some jesel tie bars if they are non tiebar lifters
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Originally Posted by aNuBiS
These lifts you're refering to, are they @50 ?
Lobe lift as in with out rocker ratio. the actuall lift of the lobe before you multiply it times 1.7 for the rocker ratio or whatever ratio you run on it.
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Originally Posted by AINT SKEERED
Lobe lift as in with out rocker ratio. the actuall lift of the lobe before you multiply it times 1.7 for the rocker ratio or whatever ratio you run on it.
Ok, thats what I thought *phew*
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Originally Posted by aNuBiS
Ok, thats what I thought *phew*
Yep that's total lobe lift.
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Originally Posted by 89lx-ls1
why would you use some jesel tie bars if they are non tiebar lifters
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Lifter guides. The lifters are not connected in pairs with a tie bar. The Jesel part replaced the factory plastic lifter tray.
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