Fed Up with Rock On
Originally Posted by Red Heartbeat
Mine used to bounce off the limiter between shifts, also. I had the PCM retuned to fix it. Problem solved. This all occured after I built a performance transmission and installed a Transgo 4L60-HD2 shift kit. I thought there was something wrong with the trans but my tuner assured me that it was the PCM and he fixed the tune. He said something about having to lower the shift rpm or something like that. Haven't had any more problems since then, oh forgot, that one got stolen! LOL
Good luck to you getting it fixed. Maybe Dave or the arbitrators will make a deal with you two to send it to a competent tuner for resolution. If the tuner can fix it, you pay for the service. If the tuner cannot fix it, Dave pays for the tune.
Good luck to you getting it fixed. Maybe Dave or the arbitrators will make a deal with you two to send it to a competent tuner for resolution. If the tuner can fix it, you pay for the service. If the tuner cannot fix it, Dave pays for the tune.
this idea works great for me. i doubt dave will go for it. last time car was at his shop i asked him to put in a new tranny & see if it would slip. if it did i said i'll go away it's not the trans. if it didn't slip i would keep that one & work out any difference. instead he said he fixed it. it lasted about 2 weeks & started slipping again
the current trans is vacum modulated per the rock-on build
just an update for the rock on cheerleaders. i got a response from the local BBB according to the lady handeling the complaint rock on has ignored the BBB's request for Rock-On's side of the story? she asked if i wanted to give them more time to respond? i sais sure. i'll keep you posted. happy shifting!
well we can't even get a response from dave thru the local BBB. he claims he is member in good standing. i think they like their members to respond to complaints.
sorry to say i must look elsewhere for a quality transmission. currently talking to others. that's the good news there are alot of options available.several sponsers of this site are eager to build & stand behind their products.
sorry to say i must look elsewhere for a quality transmission. currently talking to others. that's the good news there are alot of options available.several sponsers of this site are eager to build & stand behind their products.
Last edited by F-MAN-SS; Mar 2, 2006 at 07:34 AM.
listen up Simply put.... thats not true. The (BBB part isn't true) ... we have responded and did so in the time frame allowed.....on the 24th...seems the lady we responded to is on vacation and the right hand doesn't know what the left was doing(at the BBB that is).....While it is true that we have alot of great sponsors here.... hope this helps ....Dave
Last edited by Rock-On; Mar 2, 2006 at 01:47 PM. Reason: missed information
here is the email response i got from the BBB give them a call
February 27, 2006
From: JANE DAVIS
RE:ROCK ON TRANSMISSIONS
Complaint #: A6025050
Dear Frank
Apparently subject firm chooses to ignore your allegations of mistreat-
ment as the Better Business Bureau has not received a response to it.
Under these circumstances, we will continue contacting this firm for
another 10 days.
However, if the complaint has been settled, or is in the process of
being settled, would you please promptly notify us so our files may be
marked accordingly? Thank you!
If you have any questions or wish to discuss this with our office, you
may contact us at (817) 332-7585, between 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. Or
email at info@fwbbb.org.
February 27, 2006
From: JANE DAVIS
RE:ROCK ON TRANSMISSIONS
Complaint #: A6025050
Dear Frank
Apparently subject firm chooses to ignore your allegations of mistreat-
ment as the Better Business Bureau has not received a response to it.
Under these circumstances, we will continue contacting this firm for
another 10 days.
However, if the complaint has been settled, or is in the process of
being settled, would you please promptly notify us so our files may be
marked accordingly? Thank you!
If you have any questions or wish to discuss this with our office, you
may contact us at (817) 332-7585, between 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. Or
email at info@fwbbb.org.
hey you
Originally Posted by Rock-On
Simply put.... thats not true. The (BBB part isn't true) ... we have responded and did so in the time frame allowed.....on the 24th...seems the lady we responded to is on vacation and the right hand doesn't know what the left was doing(at the BBB that is).....While it is true that we have alot of great sponsors here.... hope this helps ....Dave
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I can give some feedback on Dave and Rock-On.
The guy has bent over backwards to help me out and enjoys what he does.
More than that, he enjoys watching his transmissions at work.
I personally converted from a 6 Speed and do not trust the computer.
Dave built what I wanted, a full manual valve body 4L60.
He explained to me the pros/cons, and let me make an informed decision.
I am sorry you are having issues with yours, guess that is why I hate computers.
The guy has bent over backwards to help me out and enjoys what he does.
More than that, he enjoys watching his transmissions at work.
I personally converted from a 6 Speed and do not trust the computer.
Dave built what I wanted, a full manual valve body 4L60.
He explained to me the pros/cons, and let me make an informed decision.
I am sorry you are having issues with yours, guess that is why I hate computers.
Originally Posted by F-MAN-SS
this idea works great for me. i doubt dave will go for it. last time car was at his shop i asked him to put in a new tranny & see if it would slip. if it did i said i'll go away it's not the trans. if it didn't slip i would keep that one & work out any difference. instead he said he fixed it. it lasted about 2 weeks & started slipping again
the current trans is vacum modulated per the rock-on build
the current trans is vacum modulated per the rock-on build
agree with what you said. at some point you want your car to run so bad you go looking for help wherever you can get it. i think dave tried very hard to fix it but it never held for more than a week. once it shifts it says in gear for the most part. it will wonder some times. upshift then downshift at steady throttle. i just want to have my car run right. i have paid everybody for any work that was done & am preparing to start over again with new tranny. it's too bad i am forced to go somewhere else. regardless of the trans issue & with all these posts not one time has dave responded or apoligized for all the damage that was done to my car the 6 times it was at his shop. grease on the convertiable top, scratches on the hood & trunk, broken bell housing pinched wires between bellhousing & block etc. i bent over backwards to work with him i even listened to his cheerleaders & changed my tuning from LS1 edit to HP Tuners still didn't work. the old saying goes you do somebody a good job they'll tell 2-3 of their friends you do them a bad job they'll tell everybody they know. unfortuanatly i fall into the second group 
Originally Posted by F-MAN-SS
agree with what you said. at some point you want your car to run so bad you go looking for help wherever you can get it. i think dave tried very hard to fix it but it never held for more than a week. once it shifts it says in gear for the most part. it will wonder some times. upshift then downshift at steady throttle. i just want to have my car run right. i have paid everybody for any work that was done & am preparing to start over again with new tranny. it's too bad i am forced to go somewhere else. regardless of the trans issue & with all these posts not one time has dave responded or apoligized for all the damage that was done to my car the 6 times it was at his shop. grease on the convertiable top, scratches on the hood & trunk, broken bell housing pinched wires between bellhousing & block etc. i bent over backwards to work with him i even listened to his cheerleaders & changed my tuning from LS1 edit to HP Tuners still didn't work. the old saying goes you do somebody a good job they'll tell 2-3 of their friends you do them a bad job they'll tell everybody they know. unfortuanatly i fall into the second group
07-16-2005, 12:27 PM
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Had the break out box on this unit...had the unit on the dyno. pressures are as fallows ...Idle 90 psi @ 14psi vac. at wot 235 psi @ 0 vac. shift differantial on the 1-2 shift 30psi with a shift time of .02 sec. 2-3 shift, differantial was 50 psi with a recovery time of .02 sec.
Times are text book bty. 3-4 clutch has no signs of slipping....band is flawless. Found a tear in the valve body gasket area under the manual valve in a dead circuit. Run the car on the street with breakout box, perfect shifts never hitting the liminter. As far as buying another transmission lets do this ...bring your car up...I'll set up a manual valve body for this test, we'll take the tunning out of the picture and we'll see what happens....seems simple to me ...and willing to do it..oh lets set it up so you can take it to sanger to test it under wot...I don't like wot on the street...Just my 2 cents ...Frank anytime one of my units doesn't shift it's my problem. I've never had one that wouldn't shift and you'll not be the first. Hope this helps Dave
Been there done that......7-16-2005....Hope this helps .....Dave
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Had the break out box on this unit...had the unit on the dyno. pressures are as fallows ...Idle 90 psi @ 14psi vac. at wot 235 psi @ 0 vac. shift differantial on the 1-2 shift 30psi with a shift time of .02 sec. 2-3 shift, differantial was 50 psi with a recovery time of .02 sec.
Times are text book bty. 3-4 clutch has no signs of slipping....band is flawless. Found a tear in the valve body gasket area under the manual valve in a dead circuit. Run the car on the street with breakout box, perfect shifts never hitting the liminter. As far as buying another transmission lets do this ...bring your car up...I'll set up a manual valve body for this test, we'll take the tunning out of the picture and we'll see what happens....seems simple to me ...and willing to do it..oh lets set it up so you can take it to sanger to test it under wot...I don't like wot on the street...Just my 2 cents ...Frank anytime one of my units doesn't shift it's my problem. I've never had one that wouldn't shift and you'll not be the first. Hope this helps Dave
Been there done that......7-16-2005....Hope this helps .....Dave
we neve got to this point because i was told it was fixed. i picked up the car & it lasted for about a week & started slipping again. ( same tune) after 6 trips & several hundred dollars in damages while at daves shop i had had enough!! pretty apparant nobodys gonna do anything but rehash what didn't work & claim it did
Originally Posted by Rock-On
07-16-2005, 12:27 PM
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Had the break out box on this unit...had the unit on the dyno. pressures are as fallows ...Idle 90 psi @ 14psi vac. at wot 235 psi @ 0 vac. shift differantial on the 1-2 shift 30psi with a shift time of .02 sec. 2-3 shift, differantial was 50 psi with a recovery time of .02 sec.
Times are text book bty. 3-4 clutch has no signs of slipping....band is flawless. Found a tear in the valve body gasket area under the manual valve in a dead circuit. Run the car on the street with breakout box, perfect shifts never hitting the liminter. As far as buying another transmission lets do this ...bring your car up...I'll set up a manual valve body for this test, we'll take the tunning out of the picture and we'll see what happens....seems simple to me ...and willing to do it..oh lets set it up so you can take it to sanger to test it under wot...I don't like wot on the street...Just my 2 cents ...Frank anytime one of my units doesn't shift it's my problem. I've never had one that wouldn't shift and you'll not be the first. Hope this helps Dave
Been there done that......7-16-2005....Hope this helps .....Dave
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Had the break out box on this unit...had the unit on the dyno. pressures are as fallows ...Idle 90 psi @ 14psi vac. at wot 235 psi @ 0 vac. shift differantial on the 1-2 shift 30psi with a shift time of .02 sec. 2-3 shift, differantial was 50 psi with a recovery time of .02 sec.
Times are text book bty. 3-4 clutch has no signs of slipping....band is flawless. Found a tear in the valve body gasket area under the manual valve in a dead circuit. Run the car on the street with breakout box, perfect shifts never hitting the liminter. As far as buying another transmission lets do this ...bring your car up...I'll set up a manual valve body for this test, we'll take the tunning out of the picture and we'll see what happens....seems simple to me ...and willing to do it..oh lets set it up so you can take it to sanger to test it under wot...I don't like wot on the street...Just my 2 cents ...Frank anytime one of my units doesn't shift it's my problem. I've never had one that wouldn't shift and you'll not be the first. Hope this helps Dave
Been there done that......7-16-2005....Hope this helps .....Dave
Originally Posted by 97F1R408
Well if your story is 100% true I understand where you are coming from Ive been stroked off in every which direction while spending top dollar but I am just dieing to see what your car would do on trans x and I cant believe when it comes down to all this that somebody down there doesnt have this type of testing equipment to work with on your car it makes diagnostics so simple and fast and would clear things up one way or the other right then and there.
all they have to do is say the word & i'll send the car up there one more time ( i'm not going) they can do there thing with my man present if he brings the car back & says it worked i'll shut up & go away.
