just an FYI i purchased a 4L60E from dave at rock on transmissions over a year ago it worked fine for a month then broke. i took it back 6 different times & they couldn't fix it. he made many excuses about tuning problems etc. never got it right. every time i got my car back it was filthy. i had to have the car buffed. the exhust had to be repaired, torque arm installed wrong etc. i finaly took it to another shop & they got it to shift for about 2 weeks still hits the rev limiter on 2-3 shift. we finaly put a whole different computer in the car. still slips. i contacted dave again & requested he do a freshen up on the trans & i would pay for it. this is part of his warranty. be sure & read the fine print on his web site about the warranty. he refused to work on it. so buy your trans from rock on with caution. THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU!!. i'm sure there are many of you who have had good luck with their product. i was not one of them

 

That would explain why I did not get any replies to getting prices on a rebuild of my 4L60E. Sorry to hear about your trans. Good luck.

 

F-MAN-SS....you said you got another shop to build you a new tranny and it was working fine...now your story changes...........the fact that YOU offered to PAY for a refresh and he said "no" oughta tell you something. Dave is not the timeliest guy out there but his trannies Rock!! Lets see what Dave responds with

Here is the thread you posted in before
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic-transmission/392417-rock-tranny.html

and you said

"my first rock on tranny worked great for about a month. then it broke. rock on tried to fix it but after 6 trips & about 6 months. they never got it right. i took it to another shop & they rebuilt it & it works fine. dave seemed like he was trying to get it right it just never happened"

Now that Fastech is out of business ...you have problems.....your credibility seems suspect. Now if you said Dave was late with your tranny....I'd jump in there with you as mine is as well ...no arguement. Building yours SIX times though...you had something else wrong. You never see posts about RockOns being junk.....they work and work well. I blew up 2 of em.....one lasted a long time and finally broke a hard part when i added a 100 shot. The next one did the same thing as soon as I hit IT with the 100 shot on top of the turbos. No big suprise but Dave wanted to push his tranny and see what it could handle in a big sled like my car....we now know

For those who think I am just a Rock On *****....that is not true. My 4l80 is 7 days late and I am aggravated like anyone else would be BUT...I know it will be a badass tranny when I get it just like my 4l60s were that i paid for. Just dont like misinformation on a great tranny builder

 

"still hits the rev limiter on 2-3 shift".....Yea, I think you have some tuning issues. I have been beating the hell out of my Rock-On 4L60E with my 638 rwhp driver and my son has been even harder on his Rock-On 4l60E in his 6.5 second (1/8th) Camaro. Both trannys are working great. Dave builds the strongest 4L60Es on the market. I think it's funny that you bad mouth Dave on the forum AFTER you wanted him to rebuild some brand x tranny and he refused. On one hand you're telling us how bad his trannys are then on the other hand you go back to him to get the brand x tranny rebuilt.........you sound like a street squirrel to me.

 

Frank,
Your confused, Freshen up and warranty are two seperate things. Freshen up...is a service we offer our customers who have purchased our products and are out of warranty.. The warranty is as stated and published on our web site and posted at our place of business...Also there is no FINE PRINT in our warranty, Its an industry standard warranty, not fancy at all, and certainly has no fine print.

You decided in nov.of 2005 not to take advantage of our warranty and elected instead to have someone else build your transmission. We had no controll over that decision. I am not in a position to warranty /freshen up someone elses work at this time.

I'm curious tho...... I wonder what it is thats causing this problem. We've used three differant trannys and three differant converters, with three differant stalls and this "other" company did one as well, and as of nov. 05 it was working fine....now we still have the 2-3 hitting the liminter?? Somethings going on...?? I hope this helps....Dave

 

like i said i'm sure some people have had good luck with rock on. i have not. that's what this forum is for.

as to the warranty on the web site when i paid CASH for my tranny that DISCLAIMER was not there. that web site has changed at least 4 times since i got my trans from Dave. the other shop got the trans to shift. for about 2 weeks. i would think a guy who is worried about his reputation would want his product right. i'm just stating what happened there are others & they can speak for themselves. you can call it misinformation or whatever you want.i never said it was junk. i don't think dave knew how to fix it or he didn't want to. that's not my problem. i made one last attempt to let the guy fix it. as far as a warranty hell i never had one that amounted to anything. i noticed i didn't get any objections to all the damage done to my car when it was there! i'll keep telling my story to whoever wants to listen, take it for what it's worth. there are plenty of other shops who build quality trannies i'm sure i can find one. yours truley. the street squirrl!!! what a dumd ***! sorry i hurt your feelings

 

try Fastech....hear they are awesome

 

f-man-ss are you fuggin kidding me! First i have to say i do not have any rock on products--yet.. With that said and reading your posts let me put your posts in simple terms

1.You had rock on build you a trans,worked fine for a month.
2.You went back to rock on a few times over a 6month period
3.After trying for 6 months it never shifted right
4.You decide rock on doesnt know enough and you take it somewher else.
5.They build your trans and it shifts fine for TWO WEEKS!!!!!

Two weeks, what the fug does that tell you, you have some other problem with the car(pcm) maybe the cable to the throttle body or something else your not saying.
How the hell can you bash rock on when you also had someone else build you one and it does the same ****..
Also how the hell can you expect a warranty when someone else rebuilt the trans, thats like saying you bought a tv from best buy and try to return it to circuit city.. How dumb can you be..

I would really like to know the mods on your car. What kind of programming has been done to the pcm.. Did you do it yourself.. We can all help you get this thing right if you ask instead of bash someone espically when you had someone else look at it and rebuild it their way and it does the same thing... Why aren't you bashing the other people that did a rebuild and didnt get it shifting right???

 

I would really like someone to copy and paste where it says there was another transmission built.
How do you get that out of ?
I don't see where a new trans was built. They could have just replace a sensor, there is nothing said about a new transmission.

 

i'm happy to give the details for all to see. if you guy's want to call it bashing go right ahead. i never said that. botom line to me is when you buy something from someone & they say it is guarenteed then it ought to be fixed. it was not a few of trips over a 6 month period. it appears some folks only read PART of the post. this process was over a year. with my car which makes abot 560RWHP ( depends on whose dyno) 6.90 1/8 convertable ( when it used to shift right) sitting in their shop some times for MONTHS waiting for them to get around to it. this shop is fourty miles from my house!! when i wiould go to pick it up ( after being told it was ready) it still sliped or it would slip into 3rd for a day or two & then back to the same old problem. oh & when i picked the car up there would be grease all over it. it is a convertable, tan top still has stains. scratches. i had the car clay bared 2 times to get as many of the surface scratches off as possible from my visitis to rock-on. ( it looked like they used it to stack parts on)wires from my knock sensors where pinched in half when they did the re-install. several hundred dollars of addional repair work had to be done on the exhaust,drive shaft loop, electric cut out wireing was destroyed.
in case somebody missed it. we put a whole nother PCM in my car out of a local shop car A4 which shifts perfect (i drove it) mine still slips. we re-tuned the car at the suggestion of CABELBANDIT from LS1 edit to HP tuners ( that cost me $500.....nothing. I SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO TAKE THE CAR ANYWHERE ELSE. are you getting the picture
i am not some kid who saved all his money & am pissed off because i can't get my car fixed i am a business owner i have several cars 69 camaro blown small block, 57 schevy show car, 87 grand national. this whole ordel has wasted a sh..load of my time. the only thing that's gonna make this right is a new tranny. which is gonna be done shortly
i personaly think Dave is an ok guy. i spent alot of time at his shop. i visited him in the hospital when he was having health problems. we discussed ways to improve his business etc. like i said i know people have had good luck with his product. i have not. he don't want to make it right & again i should not have had to take it to another shop to fix his tranny. it's his product it should be right!! so next stop is the BBB

 

Well i do have to agree with you if you go and pick up your car and there is **** all over it, parts distroyed(cut out wires,exhaust etc.) Thats just plain wrong and he should have offered to atleast pay to have it cleaned/repaired the stuff he broke..
As for taking it to someone else (thats your decision,you could have made that decision due to dave dragging his *** to fix it---understandable), you cant really expect dave to fix it after you decided to take it someone else (i do tons of warranty work and if your in a business you should already know that you cant do that it will void warranty.) As for putting in a new pcm, that doesnt mean jack crap as cause your car is going to be different (espically with 500+hp). You did say you tuned it.... Could you send me your current tune so i could look at it(sent you a pm about this)
All in all you could be right--- your 100% right about not having things broken on your car that they did and dont want to fix.. Any word on that DAVE!

 

i can promise you i DID NOT want to take the car to another shop. but as you well know sometimes frustration overiders good judgement. i just wanted my car to run right.

 

Hey, Not very good at finding these posts..check these out

heres where we were in july, frank never brought us the car....

https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic-transmission/351449-built-4l60e-tc-problem-need-advice.html

We tried to put this to bed in July ...never got the car!!!

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392417

This is where he says he had it built,
The first we worked this car he blew his engine. Brought it back not shifting after motor install. we replaced the transmission...he was out awhile came in not shifting found a blown converter, installed a differant transmission and a used stall Frank brought us.....Went Down the road a while that transmission wouldn't shift...changed out transmission , found another blown torque converter...he reinstalled his first blown t/c after having it repaired....we have installed three transmissions and from his own admission he's been taking it to anyone with leads for tunes....Frank has a tuning problem with his car...not a transmission problem. He'll take his car to anyone with an Idea,
When we tried to put this issue to rest Frank never brought us the car....look at these posts...I've never charged for any of the work we've done even after reinstalling his used torque converters that blew up!!!!...
Because he bought it from us doesn't mean we have to warranty till he decides we have to stop. The last attempt by us to fix this car has resulted in a no show by frank Its always over at Seeptech, Fasttech or RPM An every time he goes to one of them places he calls with something else we f'ed up If half of what he says was true the car wouldn't move....
He took this car to another shop and elected to have his transmission rebuilt, Now he wants me to warranty their work as well.....Its in the tune....... NOT THE TRANSMISSION!!!!! I Hope this Helps...Dave

P.S. all this other stuff is a case of sore grapes. you notice there is no mention of these other "problems" in his other posts

 

are you blind....its in my first post with the link to the post.

 

guess i don't know how to use the posts or mine got closed.

any way again bottom line all i wanted was my trans to work. i paid for it & all i'v gotten is the run around. the last reply from dave is mostly bs. you guy's who are lookin for a performance trans good like with rock on. i know there are people who can tell of great results...mine suck. with all his explanations about how his short comings are my fault he has never addressed the condition my car was in EVERY time i picked it up from his shop. that should tell you something. go by some time & look at the condition of that place. i have not wanted to get personal on this but dave has taken it there. i will keep posting my results as long as there is a place to post it. i have filed complaints with the Dallas & fort worth BBB. he has agreed to binding arbitration so we will let them decide. yes i took my car to several places because the tranny did not work. he can BS all he wants to but Chris Robertson tuned my car & it worked fine until the rock on trans broke the second time. got it back from Dave same tune same everything trans didn't work. i guess according to dave that's my fault. chris told me i had a trans problem. how many of you guy's in texas had chris tune your car? he was a damn good tuner. but according to dave he didn't know what he was doing. you decide, my money has been spent. hope you don't have the same experince. because these post from rock on show how he handles his warranty work

 

if you happened to look at the last thread that got locked. i have never had my car at RPM. more misinformation from rock on

 

Keep this thread clean and factual. If it turns into a mess it will be locked.


Thanks

John

 

Frank if RockOn sux so bad, why would you now be willing to PAY him to refresh your tranny? I believe every word you said about RockOn...we all just got lucky

Chris Robertson "was" a good tuner? Let me guess...he is now out of business just like Fastech....gee I dunno why you had all these problems...

 

as the moderator said keep it clean. Chris Robertson is out of business because he quit. i doubt you ever knew the guy. in case you didn't read the threads i asked one last time for the guy to make good on his product. i got my answer & you got yours too. have a good one.

 

good morning