NoHope

Actually the 5.7 HEMI in the Charger R/T makes a whopping...(drum roll) 370HP in the year 2013. The 1998 Camaro Z28 (15 years older) makes 345HP, only 25HP less. The 2001 Camaro Z28 makes 350HP, only 20HP less and almost 1,000 lbs less. Not that impressive of a difference considering the years separating the two if you ask me.

Theblacknightls1

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My hemi makes 390 hp and 407 trq how much trq the ls1 makes drum roll ...

Theblacknightls1

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A 2011 charger RT runs a 13.6-13.7 how much faster is a stock fbody? I say pretty impressive for a 4200# car

NoHope

You have the HEMI they put in the trucks, not the Charger and Challenger. Also the LS1 makes 375 lb ft of torque.

NoHope

MotorTrend tested the car at 13.9 seconds in the 1/4 mile.

Most LS1's are running low 13's with a good driver, so about 3/4 of a second faster with less horsepower.

Considering its weight and horsepower, 13.9 seconds is actually pretty respectable. The LS4 weighs 1,000 lbs less, makes 303HP and still can't get out of the 14's, but then again it's FWD.

Theblacknightls1

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Well fwd sucks ! Trust me I have one I know. Makes everything more complicated :/

Jay z28

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LMAO! I agree with that 100%! In fact I agreed with that so much I even made that my personalized plate when I had my GXP. Ahahaha



Sounds like your buddy fails at driving. My WIFE ran a 15 flat in her fully loaded(read as "heavy as ****") 2011 300c. But that was at 5000+ DA. lol So I don't know what happened with your buddy.

Wish I would have known this thread was here earlier, it was definitely a fun read!

07BlackSS

This is his first sports car to own. He's only owned trucks before this, and only has had this maybe 3wks. So I cut him a little slack. A little. Can't talk **** to me anymore because I always ask him "And what did your car run??" lol

crich88848

FTL????? For The Loss?????

Jay z28

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crich88848

That's a BADASS jeep you got there in your sig. I'd take the jeep over the charger or challenger anyday.

Jay z28

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Thanks. I agree whole heartedly. I dislike the Chargers and the Challengers are too heavy for a pony car imo. They weigh close to what my Jeep weighs, but at least mine is a SUV so it kind of has an excuse for the extra weight.

crich88848

I still remember the first time I seen one. I frooze and just watched it go by with my mouth on floor drooling, then I got honked at and flipped off for not going on the green light HAHAH. I watched a youtube video about a week ago of a twin turbo GC SRT-8 destroy and Audi R8 by at least 20 car lengths in a mile run. That's some serious power!

LS1 Racing

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Uhh...No.

1998-2000 Z28 was rated at 305 HP/335 lb-Ft. The SS was rated at 320 HP/345 lb-ft.

2001-2002 Z28 was rated at 310 HP/340 lb-ft. The SS was rated at 325 HP/350 lb-ft.

Only the Corvette was rated at 350 HP, but the LS1 motors were all pretty much the same.

Of course, the ratings didn't mean **** because the T56 F-bodies were putting down 300-310 RWHP stock, with the autos around 280 or so, which means they were all underrated.

And citing magazine numbers is pretty lame, when in the real world, these cars ran deep into the 13's with no mods.

For someone acting like he know's his ****, you sure don't know ****.

NoHope

For getting all over my nuts about citing "Magazine" numbers and then going and running your mouth quoting the false and underrated numbers, you sure don't know how to sell your message, do you?

Why post the numbers if you already know they're false? I don't know how your mind works, but it seems like you wasted two paragraphs on nothing.

Oh and here you go, proof:



Please show me a STOCK Charger R/T that is running DEEP into the 13's.

Redfire 03

I'm predicting his argument to be that realistically the F-bodies were rated 345 and 350HP as well, since they are essentially the same engine as the Corvette.

LS1 Racing

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My numbers are false? LOL! Bro, I was driving and modding these cars when you were still popping zits and riding bicycles. I was HERE when this **** was new and I SAW low mileage stock Z28s put down the numbers I mentioned. Furthermore, I drove a stock Z28 AUTOMATIC into the 13.70's with less than 1000 miles on it at the track in 90 degree weather at 2800 feet of altitude. I didn't keep it stock for long to tell what it would have run, but if you correct for weather and altitude, that was a 13.40 car.

And so you can go on quoting magazine articles all you want, but I was here on and on the LS1 scene and know what this **** did when it was new.

As for your comment on the Charger, where in my post did I even mention one, let alone suggest they run low 13's.

Get some experience before you start talking ****, noob.

Edit: Instead of showing me screen shots of magazines, why not do a search here on LS1Tech, and maybe LS1.com (though their server crash in 2005 wiped out all their stuff back to 1999) and see what these cars ran and put down on the dyno. It might give you some perspective.

Edit #2: For the record, that magazine article features a '98 LS1, which was the weakest of all, despite the same rating as 99-2000. They had poor-flowing cylinder heads, relative to the later motors. So, yes, you can claim "win" because those numbers are more representative of the 98's, but not the later motors.

LS1 Racing

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Well, he chose to call me a liar instead and again quoted a magazine article.

I'm assuming he's just a kid, with no real experience in these cars, basing his posts only on what he's read in Car & Driver and Motor Trash, not on what he's actually experienced.

His join date of January 2013 is what gives this way. If he had any experience at all, he would have found this site long ago.

NoHope

Are you reading what I said at all? The "official" numbers you provided are obviously false. We ALL know that the LS1 doesn't put down 305 or 310HP in the Z28, and not 320 or 325HP in the SS. Perhaps you should reread my message, I was calling you out on providing those numbers since they're obviously WRONG.

My '01 Z28 auto, bone stock ran a 13.5, corrected for weather and ****, Idk, because I don't do those calculations. The car runs what it runs.

My post was all about comparing the 5.7 HEMI to the 5.7 LS1. I KNOW that the LS1 Fbody is easily capable of hitting low 13's and in rare cases high 12's in stock form with the right DA, driver, track prep, etc. I must have been mistaken when you said these cars were deep into the 13's and I thought you were referring to the Charger, since that's what half of my first post you decided to quote was about. Capiche?

TheMonteMan

i think you guys need to meet in a dark alley somewhere and settle this the old fashioned way.