Friend's MCSS VS LS1 Camaro
03-07-2013, 08:22 PM
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Friend's MCSS VS LS1 Camaro Well a buddy of mine wanted to race his bro ( LS1 camaro)
They did a dig and a 30 roll.
Mods on Camaro are CAI and exhaust
Mods on MCSS CAI and Exhaust
They did a dig and a 30 roll.
Mods on Camaro are CAI and exhaust
Mods on MCSS CAI and Exhaust
03-09-2013, 12:15 AM
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That Monte would appear to be more modded than your buddy is letting on. No way does it walk the Camaro with the mod list you indicated, especially an A4 Camaro that is basically point-and-shoot.
What gives it away is the top-end pull of that Monte.
What gives it away is the top-end pull of that Monte.
03-09-2013, 01:11 AM
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If that's an average, decent-running LS1 F-body with a lid, K&N, free mods and exhaust, the very slowest it can be running is high-'13s, MAYBE 14.0 if it's a real dog. The way the Monte pulled, especially up-top would indicate a mid-to-low 13-second car, which would need, in addition to the mods you listed, a tune, LS1/6 intake and/or headers, and probably roller rockers. All of those mods would give the Monte the top-end we saw in the video. I've seen lightly-modded LS4s beat LS1 F-bodies, but not like THAT.
Having owned three LS1 Camaros and a 275 WHP LS4, I can say without a doubt there's more here than is being told.
Edit: Your car should pull that Camaro the way that Monte did, as your mod-list would make the power to do so..
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03-09-2013, 01:41 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was already tuned or had an even more extensive mod list, and here's why:
If that's an average, decent-running LS1 F-body with a lid, K&N, free mods and exhaust, the very slowest it can be running is high-'13s, MAYBE 14.0 if it's a real dog. The way the Monte pulled, especially up-top would indicate a mid-to-low 13-second car, which would need, in addition to the mods you listed, a tune, LS1/6 intake and/or headers, and probably roller rockers. All of those mods would give the Monte the top-end we saw in the video. I've seen lightly-modded LS4s beat LS1 F-bodies, but not like THAT.
Having owned three LS1 Camaros and a 275 WHP LS4, I can say without a doubt there's more here than is being told.
Edit: Your car should pull that Camaro the way that Monte did, as your mod-list would make the power to do so..
If that's an average, decent-running LS1 F-body with a lid, K&N, free mods and exhaust, the very slowest it can be running is high-'13s, MAYBE 14.0 if it's a real dog. The way the Monte pulled, especially up-top would indicate a mid-to-low 13-second car, which would need, in addition to the mods you listed, a tune, LS1/6 intake and/or headers, and probably roller rockers. All of those mods would give the Monte the top-end we saw in the video. I've seen lightly-modded LS4s beat LS1 F-bodies, but not like THAT.
Having owned three LS1 Camaros and a 275 WHP LS4, I can say without a doubt there's more here than is being told.
Edit: Your car should pull that Camaro the way that Monte did, as your mod-list would make the power to do so..
03-09-2013, 10:41 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was already tuned or had an even more extensive mod list, and here's why:
If that's an average, decent-running LS1 F-body with a lid, K&N, free mods and exhaust, the very slowest it can be running is high-'13s, MAYBE 14.0 if it's a real dog. The way the Monte pulled, especially up-top would indicate a mid-to-low 13-second car, which would need, in addition to the mods you listed, a tune, LS1/6 intake and/or headers, and probably roller rockers. All of those mods would give the Monte the top-end we saw in the video. I've seen lightly-modded LS4s beat LS1 F-bodies, but not like THAT.
Having owned three LS1 Camaros and a 275 WHP LS4, I can say without a doubt there's more here than is being told.
Edit: Your car should pull that Camaro the way that Monte did, as your mod-list would make the power to do so..
If that's an average, decent-running LS1 F-body with a lid, K&N, free mods and exhaust, the very slowest it can be running is high-'13s, MAYBE 14.0 if it's a real dog. The way the Monte pulled, especially up-top would indicate a mid-to-low 13-second car, which would need, in addition to the mods you listed, a tune, LS1/6 intake and/or headers, and probably roller rockers. All of those mods would give the Monte the top-end we saw in the video. I've seen lightly-modded LS4s beat LS1 F-bodies, but not like THAT.
Having owned three LS1 Camaros and a 275 WHP LS4, I can say without a doubt there's more here than is being told.
Edit: Your car should pull that Camaro the way that Monte did, as your mod-list would make the power to do so..
It's street racing. Anything can happen.
03-09-2013, 12:41 PM
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Since the Camaro was an automatic, there's not much room for driver error. An automatic LS1 F-body is one of the easiest, most idiot-proof ways to go fast, so it's hard to screw that up.
Still, I think that Monte is a bit more modded than maybe even the original owner disclosed. I ran into this when I bought the Camaro I have now. The original owner claimed just a lid, but it turned out to also have SLP Ram Air, hi-flow cats, LM exhaust, ported MAF, !CAGS, and all of the free mods. Some of this stuff I didn't know about until I got it apart, so sellers can often be forgetful or downright elusive when it comes to mods.
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Very possible to determine with a good eye, regardless of video quality. The paint on the door does not match the fender or quarter, period. My 7 year old son could see it too.
Excellent videos. Nothing better than seeing a LS4 keep up with a LS1, mods or not.
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One of the things I noticed watching the dig video is that it's very difficult to hear anything coming from the LS1 car. Is he spinning or bogging down for some reason? The exhaust on that monte overpowers any audio from the LS1. Also just listening to that Monte it picks up awful fast in 2nd gear...I know my GXP doesn't sound like that and with the simple mods he supposedly has I wouldn't think it would change that much. Almost sounds suspiciously like some spray the way it pulls in 2nd...just sayin
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One of the things I noticed watching the dig video is that it's very difficult to hear anything coming from the LS1 car. Is he spinning or bogging down for some reason? The exhaust on that monte overpowers any audio from the LS1. Also just listening to that Monte it picks up awful fast in 2nd gear...I know my GXP doesn't sound like that and with the simple mods he supposedly has I wouldn't think it would change that much. Almost sounds suspiciously like some spray the way it pulls in 2nd...just sayin
03-12-2013, 08:12 AM
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I noticed that as well...poor job of blending on that door.
Very possible to determine with a good eye, regardless of video quality. The paint on the door does not match the fender or quarter, period. My 7 year old son could see it too.
Excellent videos. Nothing better than seeing a LS4 keep up with a LS1, mods or not.
Very possible to determine with a good eye, regardless of video quality. The paint on the door does not match the fender or quarter, period. My 7 year old son could see it too.
Excellent videos. Nothing better than seeing a LS4 keep up with a LS1, mods or not.
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