i honestly am lost there is only one intake that was setting in the garage. it was the ls6 intake off stangkilr's car, no one swapped them. i don't know what to tell you.

 

I don't know either, that's what really pisses me off! I opened the box and the intake that I have pictures of is what was in there. No coolant lines or anything, just the LS1 intake. Now, something obviously happened before the box was taped up for the last time and I want someone to start thinking really hard about whatever could have happened. I don't care how off the wall it may sound. The sad part is, like I said, I am beginning to think that Stangkilr didn't do this on purpose, but the fact is that I did not receive an LS6 intake or the coolant lines and now I'm stuck trying to prove it.

The only good news this week is that Texas Speed got my headers, Y, etc. shipped on Monday. I've been waiting for something positive to happen to me this week! God bless them!

 

Listen, I really don't give a crap if you were there or not because it really doesn't matter. The fact of the mater is that the two possabilities still stand.
1.) either Stangkilr is running a scam

or

2.) someone is messing with Stangkilr...either by not having the stock intake on the car when he got it or by switching the intake before it got sent.

the only other possability is that he had more then one intake and accedently sent the wrong one. Hell as far as I know you took ls6 intake and snet the ls1. The point is taht regardless of what you say you saw or what you know about this guy or how many posts he has he flat out sent the wrong intake to My2ndls1. It easy to sit back after a transaction is complete and try to unload all the fault on the buyer because the seller already has the damn money.

If Stangkilr is telling the truth and he did pull an LS6 intake off his car and intend to send to to My2ndls1 then he should be pissed that someone is screwing with him and be doing some research into what might have happend from the time it got put in the box untill it arrived and My2ndls1's door. Maybe he is a staight up guy and had all intentions of sending the specified part, but if someone is screwing with him and things like this start happening more often all of his posts and positive feedback isint going to matter and could result in legal actionl.

 

Did Stngkiller buy his car NEW (AS in, he is the ORIGINAL owner??)? Because what COULD have happened is someone BEFORE selling him the car switched the intakes (KNOWING that they could resell the LS6 and make some extra cash in the deal, but yet not disclose that info to the buyer because who would think to check? I know I for one wouldnt have before reading this thread! It is WELL KNOWN that 01-02 cars came with LS6 intakes. If i was buying an 01 or 02 car, I would ASSUME that was the intake on it (rather then the car being DOWNgraded) WAS an LS6. Checking the part number to confirm wouldnt have been an issue (well, until now at least ).

If that is the case and Stngkiller CANT vouch for the part number of the intake he sent the buyer, then the seller should be liable. It could be a VERY honest mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. Just because he wasnt aware that the part he was selling wasnt legit, dosent mean that someone else should inherit the problem.

As an FYI for everyone, this happens ALL the time on Ebay by the way. In fact, i myself reported someone who was being REAL tricky with the wording of their auctions, advertising (and i quote) an "EGR-Free late model LS6 intake with the flat bottom-Original and OEM part!". Well, guess what, THAT turned out to be an LS1 intake off a vette too! (ask me how i know! :pist: ) For future buyers, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT buy an LS6 intake off of a stranger JUST because it is advertised as an LS6 with a flat bottom or NO EGR! Because the early Vette intakes have NO EGR and are flat on the bottom, and THEY ARENT LS6 intakes and wont flow like one either! ASK FOR PART NUMBERS!!!

Anyways, post counts DO mean alot on this board. However, we ALL have friends who would be willing to step in and defend us if we told them we needed some back. (and I mean this with NO OFFENSE to Stngkiller or his friend! They both seem like legit guys so please dont take this neutral 3rd party objective the wrong way). However that being said, I KNOW my friends would have my back if i needed them, and not one of them would question whether or not I was lying (even if i was, and was essentially decieving them too!) if I insisted I wasnt.

Case in point, there are 2 sides to every story and this thread is no different. Stangkiller seems like a good guy, and he has the reputation to match it. Does that mean he didnt rip someone off? Not in the least. Does that mean the buyer is legit? Not in the least! However any neutral party following this thread who is listening to this feud can tell that the buyer HONESTLY sounds frustrated and mad as all hell, and that he dosent really sound like hes trying to rip someone off from what im reading..

Anyway, just my .02 cents. But to begin getting to the bottom of this, the seller needs to do some research on WHERE he got his car from, and whether or not he even had an LS6 intake to begin with! (I think like anyone else if this is the case, he honestly assumed he did!). If it turns out hes not sure, the RIGHT thing to do would be to at least compromise with the buyer a little. Something needs to be done and this could come down to a simple display of character.

By the way, to give you an idea of just how often this is done. I know for a FACT (from another well known member on this board who im sure will post when he sees this ) of a 2001 Trans Am in Southern California that has an LS1 intake, and im willing to bet that the new owner dosent have a CLUE. This particular car was traded in by my buddies friend, and was essentially STRIPPED of everything it could be without drawing attention from the dealership (the nice 01-02 Ttops were sold and replaced with cheaper 95-Dot matrix style ones, the Monsoon CD player was replaced with a Monsoon TAPE deck, rear deckmat was removed, WS6 lower airbox was removed, etc.).

In some cases there are even 01-02 cars runing around with the earlier light GRAY interiors. Any idea how that happens??? (because most dealers accepting a trade-in car sure dont. ) lol

So just as a heads up, these things DO happen. It seems to me that both of these guys honestly believe they are right, but obviously, someone is either not telling the truth, or the deception goes further back then the seller realizes...

 

Wow I posted a book. Sorry for the long read guys! Hopefully the valid points were worth reading though!

 

Thanks Lightning! I couldn't have said it better myself! I've been so damn pissed off, it's hard for me to think straight. I really appreciate your input.

 

I dont need to do any research on what happend..I pulled the intake off the car, seen it was an LS6 intake, let the intake set in my garage for a couple hours, then boxed the intake myself, then took it to the post office and that was the last time I seen it. It was sealed the whole time it left my house. Byron, yes I did realize I forgot the coolant lines after I got back and was going to ship them to you but then this all started. I am still going to ship them to you though since I said I was going to throw them in. I dont care if you are trying to scam me, im keeping my word on at least this. You will need them with that LS6 intake anyways.

 

Stangkilr, I don't need the coolant lines now, but I appreciate the gesture, I guess . You need to think about who the hell had access to your damn garage for a few hours then. I'm really beyond caring whether or not you think I'm trying to scam you because I'm not. It really pisses me off that you are so quick to jump on my *** about this. I DID NOT SWITCH THE GOD DAMN INTAKE!! Now get off your high horse and come back down here with the rest of us and help me figure this out.

 

Man, this is just a jacked up situation. Stangkilr, would you be able to identify the box you shipped the intake in or the handwriting from the box if you saw a couple of good pictures? At least that way
My2ndls1 would know that if you are telling the truth about the intake that someone had to have tampered with the box intransit. Then he might be able to at least notify the USPS that the item was potential switched and maybe file a claim or complaint with them. I mean if you took the stock intake off you 02 Z and it had a flat bottom and last 4 of the part number were either 1184(I think this is for fdobies) or 1182 (I think this is for Ybodies) and you put it in a box and before it left your site took it to the USPS and shipped it and then a totaly different intake arrived at the destination then some kind of mail fraud is the only option.

 

Post count or feedback rating means nothing. I had an ebayer with 4000 feedback rip me off.

Also, if he emailed you before all of this happened, maybe he was heading off trouble early since he knew he sent the wrong item?

If he thought this person was a bad buyer, he should have sold it to someone else.

I'm not taking either side, I just don't think it's fair the buyer is getting persecuted for no reason.

 

Thanks Gilbot! Like I've said before, it sucks that I'm the one that's stuck with the burden of proof and the loss of money.

 

I have no stake in this situation whatsoever, but I do want to see the integrity of this message board upheld. There has got to be a way to prove who's telling the truth here.

 

Like I said, I've got pictures, part numbers, etc. of what I received - PERIOD! I'd be more than willing to meet up with anyone that would like to come by the area or even invite them over to my house to discuss it. I am 100% positive of what I received because it's still sitting in my spare bedroom as a very expensive paperweight! I would also like to get down to the bottom of this.

 

You are kidding right? What are the odds that someone at the USPS had XRAY vision, saw through the box, and also had a spare LS1 intake manifold laying around at the USPS to switch out for the LS6 manifold????

 

I think that may have been his point?! I don't know? The fact is that I opened a box with a handwritten address label on it from Justin, StangKilr, and there was an LS1 intake inside, not the LS6 intake he claims to have sent. Once again, I don't care what he says or thinks he shipped, I've got the thing right here!

 

I'm not taking sides but I've seen no rebuttal to the comment regarding the yellow writing on the LS1 intake posted...as compared to the comment of Stangkilr's friend stating the yellow writing was rubbed off with brake kleen after the removal the the LS6 intake.

 

What do you mean? He's saying that the intake that I pulled out of the box he sent me is not the intake he sent. I've got the intake here that I was sent and it has the writing on it, that's it. I can't say anything about what they think they sent, I can only vouch for what I received and the intake that I received does have the writing on it...

 

Well, I think that if any of you were in my position, you'd be doing the same thing. What else can you do? If you have a better suggestion, let me know.

 

I think what he is trying to say is that the ls6 intake didnt have the yellow writing so you are showing pictures of the wrong intake.

 

I understand what he's trying to say and I'm saying that the intake that I received has the writing on it as shown in the pictures. That's it! My point was that I can only post pictures of the intake that I received.