I got the best of both worlds. Shhhh I bought them each for 3k. I've dumped about 6k more into the LT1 and right now doing a custom cam swap. Still though I love them both. I bought them for me, I'd hope they would be worth something one day though. Sad thing is with all the work in the LT with less my LS is more HP.

I fell in love with a 87 black Iroc vert in HS. A buds dad bought it for him. I'd love to get one just like it with an LS. I also love the 89 GTA and I've been looking but if I did the wife wouldn't let me back then the 5.0s were kings

 

I think 3rd Gen Camaros look nice, but I think that even the boxy 3rd Firebirds look better I'm not a huge fan of the 4th Camaro though. I think it's due to lots of douche bags around here owning them.

I wish they made 91-92 GFX for LT 4ths

 

Have you seen a L98 car with a stroker kit, cam, heads and a carb conversion? I was killing heads and cam LS1s with 1000$ in used parts

 

Not really a L98 anymore when you do all that.

 

Oh cut it out, sheesh. You're just being a **** and looking for anything to argue over. L98 is the RPO, but it is a Tuned Port Injection 350cid. Well LT1 is the RPO for ours, and yet it's really still a Tuned Port intake setup and 350cid. So, a 383 LT1 now is not an LT1 simply because it's stroked? That's really what you're saying. Which goes back to my initial point: You just want to argue for the sake of arguing!



I think where lots of people overlook the TPI is torque. I mean, everyone knows that the TPI motor is a torque monster, but that's where they[the people] make the mistake. The TPI can get the jump on them and manage to make a decent enough lead just on that. Set it all up right and you have quite a contender. GM were on the right track, they just made the runners just TOO long :\ LT1 was a wee too short, which is why the Stealth Ram does considerably better on both platforms. Oh well, third time's the charm!

 

 

$6k for a real 97 ws6 M6 with 100k original and 3k on the built 383 motor. full cage, buckets and 4pt harnesses, great stereo. Easily a 9k car. You just have to search around out there.

 

.....yea, i ditch TPI ASAP....and i am to that point on my 95, just tired of the opti.

 

what i and others where saying factory 3rd gens just didn't have the goodys like newer cars do, i mean what can u saythere older then 4th gens, owning a camaro/trans am says you know something about cars to me, cause i aint met one mustang guy that new **** about cars except to wish he had a 302 over the 4.6

 

3rd Gen has more goodies than LTx cars. At least the 3rd gen cars had every GEN I SBC component.

 

It's completely ridiculous how much of a tool you really are.

It was not about arguing at all. You tell me what more than cylinder heads, intake, and EFI system makes a L98 a L98. You change cylinder heads and switch to a convention style single or dual plane intake manifold and go to a carb and a normal HEI distributor and there is no L98 left. It's all SBC. Everyone knows a L98 is just a SBC, but when you make those changes and even the pistons or whole rotating assembly on top of that there is NOTHING L98 about it. Am I wrong?

As for the LT1, why would stroking it make it not a LT1? You can make it any CID you want, use any cylinder heads and intake manifold you want. It still has reverse flow cooling. It still has a timing cover pattern exclusive to LTx. It still has a water pump exclusive to LTx. It still has a block that is a LTx block and nothing else. It's a LT.

 

Actually, I hate to break it to you, but the only tool here is you...

Lets start with this: No, it's not an LT, it's a Gen II SBC. LT# is still just the RPO code. L99 is a Gen II and yet it shares almost all the same things as the LT1, but it's not an LT1. Why? Because LT1 is the RPO code! And why would stroking it not make it an LT1? I'm just going by your logic, since stroking an L98 makes it no longer an L98. LT1 still uses the same style crank, rods and pistons as the GEN I SBC (or L98 for that matter). But I know you'll go back and say "I meant by doing all of that, makes it not a L98". Ok, fine, where do we draw the line then? What CAN you change and keep it an L98? BTW HEI came on early L98s, but since you know everything, I don't have to tell you that right?

Now we can go back to the L98 more specifically. Why not you explain to all of us (since I honestly don't know what you're specifically looking for) what the difference is on the L98 that sets them SO far apart from other GEN I heads? Since the Vortec heads (not ACTUAL 96+ Vortec) are basically the same as the L98, and they both are really just slightly modified GEN I heads. Then there's the different L98 heads, iron and aluminum. Later aluminum ones got D-Port, the rest were your run of the mill. There isn't anything all that special about JUST the L98, except for those Vette aluminum heads. Which are the precursor to our LT1 heads, and are basically identical to ZZ4 heads. Since most L98s had the iron heads, that's a moot point. You can't even say the EFI is special to L98, since the LB9 had it as well. Which is why you don't go specifically by L98, but TPI. But that IS why we go by LT1 and not TPI, because the LB9/L98 version is so incredibly different from the LT1s. With all of that said, what makes an L98 an L98? It's really just the RPO code. Until there's a motor that uses components that are vastly different from ANY other motor and aren't interchangeable, it can still keep it's RPO moniker. Perfect example is the LT5. If you could swap other parts onto it, it wouldn't be an LT5. The only important interchangeable part I can think of is the connecting rods! But really the LT5 is, I believe, considered to be a GEN I heh.

I guess I just find your logic horribly flawed. If anyone agrees with me or Fergy, it sure won't hurt my feelings if you speak up, one way or the other. But of course, an explanation of which parts you agree/disagree with would be nice.

 

I luv teh torquez

 

does it really matter power is power

 

you paid that? jesus, awesome deal..

i paid 3k for my 93' firebird forumla w/88k miles (6M)

 

yeah but you got to think that style had the different nose when people see it they may think its newer

 

Yep!!

 

All that matters... CHEVY > all...

 

Negative Ghostrider

 

It was never meant to be worth anything. Cars in general are not a good financial investment. They lose value the day they are titled and driven off a lot.

Why would you laugh at someone for buying a nice low mileage Fbody? I laugh at people who buy old beat up cars and then complain that they are always breaking down.

This sounds familiar. Where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, the 5.0 Mustang guys say it a lot. So do the Honda Civic guys. It doesn't matter how much we spent. It doesn't matter how fast we can go for what we spent. It doesn't matter what the resale value is.

It only matters that the owner is happy with his or her car. The pride, satisfaction & fun most of us Fbody owners have can be described best with one word:

Priceless!