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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Hey guys, I am trying to mod my car without spending a whole bunch of money and have decided to go with a cc 503 cam and maybe hit it with a 75-100 shot. I'm trying to save as much money as I can and was wondering if I would be okay staying with the Mac mids and doing an ORY. I know I would make more power with longtubes but is it enough to really have to spend the extra cash? I will be changing to a magnaflow catback as well because flowmasters aren't very good, which most of my mods were on the car when i bought it so I can't complain too much. I'm definately going with a Yank stall because I don't want to cheap out on the car but I want to save as much money as possible. So what do you guys think, are longtubes a must or will I be fine?
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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youll be fine with the mids. there alot better then stock or shorties so you should be fine. you might pick up some more power with long tubes but its not enough for that swap to be a necessity for you
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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with that much cam, and nitrous, you are gonna want flow.


I have the same plan as you. 100 shot, and 503 cam. go for longtubes. do it right the first time and never worry about it later.


LPP's stainless stepped longtubes and ORY are $550. is there any other serious option????????


seriously. they arent a whole lot more money. they wont rust, the flow better, they make more power, look better, and there are no negatives. go LPP long tubes, you wont regret it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT
youll be fine with the mids. there alot better then stock or shorties so you should be fine. you might pick up some more power with long tubes but its not enough for that swap to be a necessity for you
That's good to hear. I know there is a difference but I didn't know if it was enough to spend the extra money. I would if I had to but was hoping I could still make good power without having to switch.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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I'd stick with your mids, you might see 5-10 more hp on the dyno out of the long tubes, but if you're talking about budget I don't see the worth in going from mids to long tubes.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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with that much cam, and nitrous, you are gonna want flow.


I have the same plan as you. 100 shot, and 503 cam. go for longtubes. do it right the first time and never worry about it later.


LPP's stainless stepped longtubes and ORY are $550. is there any other serious option????????


seriously. they arent a whole lot more money. they wont rust, the flow better, they make more power, look better, and there are no negatives. go LPP long tubes, you wont regret it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know LPP's are the best for the money and if I do go with LT's I will definately go with them. I was just hoping I could save the 550 bucks. How much more do you think longtubes would add over the mids? I didn't think it would be more than 5-10 rwhp with the ORY but I could be off.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by meanredZ
5-10 rwhp.
lol good guess
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NicksTAgt
I'd stick with your mids, you might see 5-10 more hp on the dyno out of the long tubes, but if you're talking about budget I don't see the worth in going from mids to long tubes.
That's really what I figured. If I really wanted, I could also switch down the road when I went with some ported heads and a bigger shot. Thanks for the responses guys.
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Mid's are fine!

People NS on LT's
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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Yeah, 5-10 hp difference isn't much. You could probably take some weight out of your car or like you said heads down the road and def. have as quick a time as people with long tubes.
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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people rant and rave about LTs, when I went from edelbrock shorties to Pacesetter LTs I gained 12 hp and lost 7 ft/lbs of torque. Go figure right. Anything is better than manifolds!
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Well, after hearing from everyone I think i'll just save the money and stay with the mids. I may upgrade down the road if I go more extreme with the car.
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Originally Posted by meanredZ
Well, after hearing from everyone I think i'll just save the money and stay with the mids. I may upgrade down the road if I go more extreme with the car.
thats what i plan on doing. put your money else were. like heads
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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mids...
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the mids you have will be fine don't waste the money on a new set long tubes. spend the money elsewhere. i make 452rwhp through my mids and wouldn't spend another couple of hundred dollars on some long tubes to replace them.
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Amazing: just a week or so ago, midlength headers were absolutely worthless around here...
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Originally Posted by thesoundandthefury
Amazing: just a week or so ago, midlength headers were absolutely worthless around here...
i think the key ingredient here is that he already has mids. if he was on the stock manifolds deciding on buying either long tubes or mids then the mids would get on.
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Originally Posted by C_Rules
i think the key ingredient here is that he already has mids. if he was on the stock manifolds deciding on buying either long tubes or mids then the mids would get on.


And the reason they would get on is due to blissful ignorance.

I've been trying to bust the internet myths about midlengths for a long time now.

Nice #'s btw.
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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by meanredZ
Well, after hearing from everyone I think i'll just save the money and stay with the mids. I may upgrade down the road if I go more extreme with the car.
more extreme than the bigger Smog Legal Cam and a 100 shot!? are you nuts!? i mean seriously how much are the mac mids!? the pacesetter un coated are 295 shipped! thats dirt cheap and totally worth it if you ask me, and yea you lost low end torque, but i dont know about you, i already have more than enough low end torque to bust the tires loose all kindsa.
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