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Old 01-20-2009, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by buckner01
well i would like to in the near future get like a 2500 stall and a set of 3.73 or 4.10 gears and either a set of 255-50-16 drag radials, or a set of like 8 or 9" slicks will those tires launch the car pretty good with this setup, im getting new wheels so ill just stick the tires on the stock wheels
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3200 stall
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MT streets
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even stock you would be better off with 3000+
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Originally Posted by joelster
No.

An LS1 car goes low 13's stock. LT1's need quite a few bolt-ons ($$$$$$) to get there.
And it does not have to be power adding bolt-ons. Just check my sig. 12bolt with a great clutch, slicks and suspension, thats it. LT1's are 12 second motors in stock form. Just correct the poor breathing stock CAI, and choking stock exhaust, then plant it to the ground. I don't even have headers and I can hang a wheel and dip into the 12's full weight. Owning big block Mopars and Chevys beforehand, I can say these modern f-bodies are my favorite whole package vehicle. I drive to the track, try to kill the motor, and have to bolt the street tires back on and drive home cause they last. LT1's are great also.
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Originally Posted by 3DFORMULA
And it does not have to be power adding bolt-ons. Just check my sig. 12bolt with a great clutch, slicks and suspension, thats it. LT1's are 12 second motors in stock form. Just correct the poor breathing stock CAI, and choking stock exhaust, then plant it to the ground. I don't even have headers and I can hang a wheel and dip into the 12's full weight. Owning big block Mopars and Chevys beforehand, I can say these modern f-bodies are my favorite whole package vehicle. I drive to the track, try to kill the motor, and have to bolt the street tires back on and drive home cause they last. LT1's are great also.

Ok, when I say an LS1 will do a low 13 stock, I mean right off of the showroom floor, street tires and all. Not a thing done, paper filter and all. My friend ran an 8.60 at our local 1/8th mile with his 2.73 auto equipped LS1.

I know LT1's are great also, which is why I own 2 of them, but I will acknowledge the superior motor, which is the LS1.
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so a 3000+ stall is a better idea and a set of 3.73s would do me better than a 4.10... i just figured that a 3.73 wouldnt be much different than a 3.42
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My only quib is driving them back to back and my personal pro-LS1 argument

1. No Opti
2. Better rearend (no clutches)
3. BRAKES BRAKES BRAKES!!
4. Driveshaft (no vibrations)
5. HEAT. LT1's heaters suck a$$
6. Gas gauge. I hate how the LT1's 'float'
7. Economy. Go fast and get good milage....not so good with an LT1

I agree a clean and fast lt1 car always has certain coolness about it, that old school vibe/respect. Makes me smile.

I still DROOL and kick myself everytime I see a wicked LS1 car. I don't with the LT1s.

*NEVER EVER WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A MUSTANG!!!!!**
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Originally Posted by buckner01
so a 3000+ stall is a better idea and a set of 3.73s would do me better than a 4.10... i just figured that a 3.73 wouldnt be much different than a 3.42
Yes, a 3200 would be good. You already have 3.42? Auto's come stock with 2.73's. You don't want to go with 4.10's for an auto, you won't like the freeways anymore, lol.
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Originally Posted by 3DFORMULA
And it does not have to be power adding bolt-ons. Just check my sig. 12bolt with a great clutch, slicks and suspension, thats it. LT1's are 12 second motors in stock form. Just correct the poor breathing stock CAI, and choking stock exhaust, then plant it to the ground. I don't even have headers and I can hang a wheel and dip into the 12's full weight. Owning big block Mopars and Chevys beforehand, I can say these modern f-bodies are my favorite whole package vehicle. I drive to the track, try to kill the motor, and have to bolt the street tires back on and drive home cause they last. LT1's are great also.
Nice times man!! I need more suspension goodies..
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My only quib is driving them back to back and my personal pro-LS1 argument

1. No Opti
2. Better rearend (no clutches)
3. BRAKES BRAKES BRAKES!!
4. Driveshaft (no vibrations)
5. HEAT. LT1's heaters suck a$$
6. Gas gauge. I hate how the LT1's 'float'
7. Economy. Go fast and get good milage....not so good with an LT1

I agree a clean and fast lt1 car always has certain coolness about it, that old school vibe/respect. Makes me smile.

I still DROOL and kick myself everytime I see a wicked LS1 car. I don't with the LT1s.

*NEVER EVER WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A MUSTANG!!!!!**
I've owned my LT1 for 5 years now and have never had an opti problem, my rear is finally just starting to make noise but im extremely hard on it and have done a couple high speed trips looking at 100-160 for extended periods of time. brakes aint the best but their not the worst. I never had a DS vibration problem but upgraded to an LS1 DS anyways. I live in the north east and run a 160t stat and have no complaints about my heat(once its warmed up). Ive actually ran out of gas once 5ft from the pump and my needle was just barley touching red, so that is a pita. but I get great highway economy, did a 450mile round trip this summer on 1 tank of gas, mostly ~80mph on the way there and anywhere from ~80-145mph depending on where I was on the way back. full bolt ons, open borla, M6
LS1's are def nice engines, but! they look like poo and sound like poo compared to the LT1
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i didnt know what was a stock rear in my car i thought they had 3.42 but it is auto so your probly right on that if that is the case i will probly go with a 3.73 cool thanks for the info. any more is always helpful
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Originally Posted by buckner01
i didnt know what was a stock rear in my car i thought they had 3.42 but it is auto so your probly right on that if that is the case i will probly go with a 3.73 cool thanks for the info. any more is always helpful
if theres no 1st gear selector on your shifter then you have 2.73's, if you can go into 1st then 3.23's
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Originally Posted by buckner01
i didnt know what was a stock rear in my car i thought they had 3.42 but it is auto so your probly right on that if that is the case i will probly go with a 3.73 cool thanks for the info. any more is always helpful
Yeah, you have 2.73's or 3.23's.
If you got a 3200 stall, 3.73 gears, and some sticky tires...your car would be a different car!
Then once (don't know if you already have it) you got a CAI and LT headers, your car will really move! Then take it to that LS1 loving shop owner and show him that LT1's are nothing to snuff at.
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Both are great engines and on average the LS1 is the faster car, but that is not always the case. And once you start moding all that goes out the window anyways. Choose your parts wisely and youll be fine. Oh I also have never had an opti problem untill I did my top end and the orig opti didnt like to rev over 6400rpms and would break up
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Hey AC, I finally bought that blower for the stang!^

You'd think I'd be happier lol.
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yeah when i got it it had headers and stock exhaust but it wouldnt even brake loose, now i have a 3" exhaust and a cut out and its a totally different machine. and its got the air foil and intake and chip, so if i put a stall, some gears, and some sticky tread, you think i could be in the 12s
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and if i went with slicks, could i just use like 15inch steelies off of like an s10 or something.
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Originally Posted by buckner01
yeah when i got it it had headers and stock exhaust but it wouldnt even brake loose, now i have a 3" exhaust and a cut out and its a totally different machine. and its got the air foil and intake and chip, so if i put a stall, some gears, and some sticky tread, you think i could be in the 12s
I don't know much about bolt-on times, but you should cut some nice numbers and eat up some LS1's around you.
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Originally Posted by buckner01
and if i went with slicks, could i just use like 15inch steelies off of like an s10 or something.
No, they won't clear the brake calipers in the back.
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ok ill just get the drag radials for the factory wheels
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rep the lt1. u dont want an oldschool carb motor, and u dont need a ls1 , build it the power will come
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ok well this all sounds good ive got a good idea what to do and where to start


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