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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Ill be pulling my oil pan when i do my cam and want to replace my oil pump while im at it. what pump is everyone running on a stock short block ? ive dont alot of searching but havent found what im looking for. ill also be running the stock oil pan. and if anyone has the part number for the oil pump drive gear off the cam id greatly appreciate it.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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I replaced mine with a stock GM pump. A few of my buddies run the GM High Volume pump. Some will say it's overkill but they have had no problems. I have a new spare one sitting in my garage you can have for $60 shipped if you decide to go that route. They are usually around a $100 shipped.
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thanks for the fast reply elliott! does yours come with the pick up and, or the white high pressure spring ? i was thinking about that of going with the meiling casting because people say they have a thicker mount to the block so there less prone to breakage.

does anyone have the part # for the oil pump drive ??
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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So is it requires to get a new oil pump if your doing a cam swap?
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT
thanks for the fast reply elliott! does yours come with the pick up and, or the white high pressure spring ? i was thinking about that of going with the meiling casting because people say they have a thicker mount to the block so there less prone to breakage.

does anyone have the part # for the oil pump drive ??
It's just the pump. I have heard great things about the Meiling too. Either way you go you should have no issues.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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So is it requires to get a new oil pump if your doing a cam swap?
No, but it would be a damn good idea, and the smart way to do it.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:37 AM
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I think I got a brand new melling from advance auto for like $25-35?
p/n# M155

pickup tube was an extra $20 or so
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 03:40 AM
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The M155 is a nice choice for a stock pan, but using the popular M155HV (or any high volume pump) on a stock pan is not a good idea, as the pan can be sucked dry. Higher pressure is fine, higher volume is not.

I'm running the Melling select-series 10554 with the hardened drive shaft and a Canton 242T pan.

1103868 is the p/n for the oil pump drive gear.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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Melling Select 10554 pump (std vol/std pressure).
GM white spring 3848911 to put in it for higher pressure.
GM pickup tube, 12550042.
Melling IS-55E shaft.
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Originally Posted by Camaro-BMF
So is it requires to get a new oil pump if your doing a cam swap?
its not, even tho im going to be installing a small cam (223/230) im going to be dropping the oil pan anyway to replace the pan gasket, and to install my motor mounts so i might aswell replace my 156k mile oil pump aswell.

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1103868 is the p/n for the oil pump drive gear.
thanks for the part number! gm direct seems to be the only place with that part and its $46. shesh but i need it.

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Melling Select 10554 pump (std vol/std pressure).
GM white spring 3848911 to put in it for higher pressure.
GM pickup tube, 12550042.
Melling IS-55E shaft.
thanks alot. i think ill be going with that set up when i get home tonight after this i think ill have all my parts together to do my cam install hehehe
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by shbox
Melling Select 10554 pump (std vol/std pressure).
GM white spring 3848911 to put in it for higher pressure.
GM pickup tube, 12550042.
Melling IS-55E shaft.
That's what I was going to say.
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actually realized I got the M55 not the M155

any major difference pressure wise?
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No diffrence in pressure. The m55 has 5/8" pick up tube and the m155 has 3/4".
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thanks for all the info guys! ill be ordering my stuff tonight. its just that summit has the pick up tube on back order i guess its up to gm parts direct
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The standar Mellings are the thin ones that people claim are prone to cracking.
The Melling selects are thicker.
The stocker is quite good but must be blindly dismissed simply because it is stock.
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The stocker is quite good but must be blindly dismissed simply because it is stock.
yeah theres no way in hell im going to get that far and not change it. i want to change the oil pan seal so it def pays to change the pump out aswell. then i get to paint my oil pan hugger orange
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That is because you don't bother to UNDERSTAND things. You will **** away $110(summit price for the Select pump and pickup) on something you don't need and wont see a benefit from here and then save cheap out and try and save $100 elsewhere where it would have done a LOT of good.

Like I said above it is the standard Mellings that people have had crack.
I will also add that the stock pump is a melling, one that GM wanted to last 300K.

I have never bought a oil pump drive gear either, don't know what people do wrong to destroy them.

That is $150 I am trying to help you save, would more than pay the price difference between junk and good parts later if applied in the right areas.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
That is because you don't bother to UNDERSTAND things. You will **** away $110(summit price for the Select pump and pickup) on something you don't need and wont see a benefit from here and then save cheap out and try and save $100 elsewhere where it would have done a LOT of good.

Like I said above it is the standard Mellings that people have had crack.
I will also add that the stock pump is a melling, one that GM wanted to last 300K.

I have never bought a oil pump drive gear either, don't know what people do wrong to destroy them.

That is $150 I am trying to help you save, would more than pay the price difference between junk and good parts later if applied in the right areas.
Agreed Just spend the $5 or so ond get the white spring.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
That is because you don't bother to UNDERSTAND things. You will **** away $110(summit price for the Select pump and pickup) on something you don't need and wont see a benefit from here and then save cheap out and try and save $100 elsewhere where it would have done a LOT of good.

Like I said above it is the standard Mellings that people have had crack.
I will also add that the stock pump is a melling, one that GM wanted to last 300K.

I have never bought a oil pump drive gear either, don't know what people do wrong to destroy them.

That is $150 I am trying to help you save, would more than pay the price difference between junk and good parts later if applied in the right areas.
imsorry if im the type of guy that would shell out the extra cash for a splayed 4 bolt when i only really need a billet 2 bolt with studs. id prefer the extra insurance. i appreciate your help alot.
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