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Old 03-01-2009, 05:59 PM
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Default Getting a mail order tune...Which company for my 93'

Want to get a tune done for my 93 Z and ive seen MadZ28 and PCM4less...which one and is there other companies?
Old 03-01-2009, 06:08 PM
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I'm running the PCMforless. I'm satisfied.
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I have Madtuner. I like it so far.
Old 03-01-2009, 06:28 PM
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your going to be getting allot of post like these^
w/ that being said Ion tuned my pcm and did a great job imo.
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He might not know who Ion is. I didnt at first. Its Madtuner by the way which was formally Madz28.com
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my buddy got his from pcm4less and it turned out awsome
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Just ordered it from pcm4less...How much on average would i be looking to gain?
Old 03-01-2009, 08:52 PM
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Get ahold of Ed Wright at fastchip.com; it'll be done right the first time.
I wouldn't let PCMForless touch a 93 with a 10ft pole.
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id go with trifectaperformance.com...vince is an awesome guy, super helpful and just finalized the datalogging program for our cars...i think i was one of the first lt1 guys to use the datalogging lol
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so ion at madz28 is a safe bet? Im getting mine tuned and was going to go with him.
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trifecta doesent do 1993's by the chart on their website.
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Originally Posted by James Montigny
Get ahold of Ed Wright at fastchip.com; it'll be done right the first time.
I wouldn't let PCMForless touch a 93 with a 10ft pole.
Care to explain why? I'm not doubting you, I just want to know why you feel that way. PCM4Less seems to be on the Speed Density site quite a bit - I figured he knew his stuff, now you have me maybe thinking otherwise.
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Originally Posted by Counted Out
Care to explain why? I'm not doubting you, I just want to know why you feel that way. PCM4Less seems to be on the Speed Density site quite a bit - I figured he knew his stuff, now you have me maybe thinking otherwise.
For whatever reason, the guy doing 93 and previous tunes does an absolutely
horrible job time and time again. Customer service is no better. Which is really
too bad since they do such a good job on 94+

The tune they sent me for the LE H/C was so bad the dyno operator refused
to run the car. PCMForless refused to many any changes for me and told me
the car must be broken and it would never run properly until I fixed it. I had
to spend time with a friend and his laptop to tune it on the street until it was
close enough that I just took it to Ed for a proper tune. Ran just fine after that.
In fact, I put down 390rwhp though a 4000 stall on a little 22x/23x cam.
"Broken"

I'm not the only one who feels this way, search around.
IIRC someone recently refered to them as the "McDonald's of the tuning world"

Moral of the story is that Ed has been doing most of my tunes for 10 years
and he's never let me down. I've tried others, been burned, I'm trying to save
you having to learn the hard way.

Originally Posted by Counted Out
I just noticed PCMForLess is cheaper than MadTuner now, wasn't it the other way before?
He recently lowered his price, see the thread over in Speeddensity.org



[EDIT] Following this post, my $157 was refunded by PCMForless.

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Originally Posted by James Montigny
I'm not the only one who feels this way, search around.
IIRC someone recently refered to them as the "McDonald's of the tuning world"

Moral of the story is that Ed has been doing most of my tunes for 10 years
and he's never let me down. I've tried others, been burned, I'm trying to save
you having to learn the hard way.
Hahaaaa. Thank you for the info. I'll probably be talking to Ed Wright soon.

Originally Posted by James Montigny
He recently lowered his price, see the thread over in Speeddensity.org
Wow you actually caught that post? I thought I deleted it pretty quick. I remember asking him not too long ago if he was thinking of dropping his prices to match the competition - I'm surprised it actually happened.
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Originally Posted by James Montigny
Get ahold of Ed Wright at fastchip.com; it'll be done right the first time.
I wouldn't let PCMForless touch a 93 with a 10ft pole.
+1 James nailed it on the head.
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Originally Posted by Counted Out
Wow you actually caught that post? I thought I deleted it pretty quick. I remember asking him not too long ago if he was thinking of dropping his prices to match the competition - I'm surprised it actually happened.
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Originally Posted by shutzero
id go with trifectaperformance.com...vince is an awesome guy, super helpful and just finalized the datalogging program for our cars...i think i was one of the first lt1 guys to use the datalogging lol
He doesnt tune 93 cars, they got the gay eprom chip
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Ed Wright here in T-town is the MAN!!!!!!

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My buddy burning his tune from pcmforless and he tried to contact them for weeks to rectify it. Car wouldn't start the whole time.

Finally Ion sent him a PM and offered to help him out. He sent the PCM to ION and he had it fixed and sent back the same day.

Ion looked at the tune and said they looked like Impala SS tables and that the timing was a little aggressive but would probably work.

LOL I would go with Ion or Ed wright based on my research. From the perspective of a noob, pcmforless looks like they're customer service and tuning needs a little "tuned up"
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Ive got a tune from Ion. Will be doing some data logging once I install some boost too.
Great guy to work with. I emailed him on a saturday night, sent me a response on a sunday. Thats almost unheard of in the business world.
Another thing to consider, From what Ive read, which could be hearsay, PCMforless doesnt do well with speed density cars. Which is what pushed me to Madz28 in the first place, and couldnt be happier.


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