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Old 03-18-2009, 07:31 PM
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Will just about any rear fit out cars with a lil custom work? I am thinkin about going to a local junk yard to try to find a mustang gt 8.8" rear or somethin like it rather than spending 2500 or so on a new 9" one.. I just don't know a TON about the area so I figured I'd ask for some advice. Or a rear that's been put in an older car or truck that is pretty common and I could likely find in a smaller town junk yard..
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I don't see the point in doing an 8.8 swap. I think the 12bolt in the Grand Nationals are a relatively easy swap, at least easier than the 8.8.

And yes, if you know what you're doing and have the machinery, anything can work. Hell, we dropped a 350 and TH350 into a Fox Body w/ zero swap kit items (assuming there is a kit). Sure, a bit easier than doing a rear end swap but just making a point You'd want to make sure that whatever rear you decide to use is wider, or at least AS wide, as ours.
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Originally Posted by lt1z28camaro
Will just about any rear fit out cars with a lil custom work? I am thinkin about going to a local junk yard to try to find a mustang gt 8.8" rear or somethin like it rather than spending 2500 or so on a new 9" one.. I just don't know a TON about the area so I figured I'd ask for some advice. Or a rear that's been put in an older car or truck that is pretty common and I could likely find in a smaller town junk yard..
You have much to learn about rears and drivetrain.

It doesn't matter what you buy, you're going to spend about that much in fabrication. Things like spring perches, torque arm mounts, brake brackets, housing/axle width, depth, size, panhard brackets, yokes, transmission length, e-brake compatability, gear size, ABS, TCS, etc., the list goes on, all need to be adapted one way or another. Save yourself the hassle and look for a used 12-bolt, S60 or 9", designed for the f-body. The price and work involved outweighs the benefits, which don't really exist unless you have an S60, 12 bolt, or 9".

I used a GM 8.8" at one point and had the perches and brackets welded on, and it just wasn't worth the money. Sold it, and bought an f-body 9".
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i never knew that the nationals had 12 bolts?
mine had a 8.8
anyway if you have any fab skills, do some research and do it yourself
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If you're trying to save money, Build your 10-bolt
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thats alot of work to go through to save just a little bit of cash and you really have to know how to fab the rear end and center it so u can make all of the stock suspention fit then fab a peice for the torque arm and brakes then not to mention you would be buying and old rear end so it would possably need to be rebuilt also. thats alot of bs when u can spend a little more and all the guess work is out and it bolts right in
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I paid $2225 for the Moser I have under my car, got it new from a company.
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About the Grand National rear-end, You're ALL incorrect.... Its the Corporate 10-bolt...Its 8.5" and a 10-bolt. not an 8.8 " 12 bolt.
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thanks for the help guys
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Originally Posted by moge11
About the Grand National rear-end, You're ALL incorrect.... Its the Corporate 10-bolt...Its 8.5" and a 10-bolt. not an 8.8 " 12 bolt.
Sorry, your right. I was mixing it up due to it being the larger 10bolt compared to our 7.5"
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ha ha i meant 8.5 the 8.8 is the stangs. lmao wow
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Originally Posted by lifeisgood
ha ha i meant 8.5 the 8.8 is the stangs. lmao wow
I knew what you meant anyways lol
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If you’re really looking to save money you can buy a Moser 9inch housing for the Fbody, proper length axles, and pinion yoke for the Fbody. Go to a salvage yard and find a used Ford 9 inch center section and have a gear shop install the gear/pinion/posi of your choice, and have them press your brake backing plates on the axles.

The down fall to this option is most Ford 9inch center sections are the smaller bearing diameter ( I think around 2.9375), only allowing you to run a 31 spline axle. With a true Moser 9inch I believe you can run up to a 35 spline axle as they have the 3.0625 diameter bearing, I believe. It is also more work and you’re allowing more people to "work" on the rear increasing the chance for mistakes. In the end the savings is only around $500. This is the path I took about 5 years ago for my 9inch. I thought I had around $1650 in the rear. If I had to do it again I would just save up the extra few hundred and buy a 12 bolt.

You could possibly save more if you can setup the gears yourself and find a free Ford 9inch center, but you will have to have experience setting up a rear and a HYD press for the axles. Also keep in mind like Ramair mentioned you will lose TCS and ABS unless you find a rear that will support them.

If you don't have any previous experience with rear fabrication your best bet would be to find a used 12bolt or 9inch, will save you time and headaches.
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So grand nationals came with 8.5 10 bolts?
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Originally Posted by xx_ED_xx
So grand nationals came with 8.5 10 bolts?
Yes, and those 8.5" rears can be built to handle 9sec big blocks racing every weekend regularly.
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What exactly does 9" mean? Is that the depth of the differential housing, or something.
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I paid $2225 for the Moser I have under my car, got it new from a company.
Where did you get it and what are the options on it?
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Originally Posted by BTC
What exactly does 9" mean? Is that the depth of the differential housing, or something.
It is the diameter of the ring gear.
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with enuff fab work any rear end will fit in your car it`s a ? of how much $$ you are willing to spend. but for a budget build look around the parts section of the site and others you can fine some good deals. the 9 inch that is used in most f-body is out of the mid 70 ford truck or ford granada 4dr. if you can do the the fab work you can build it your self with a center section swap from currie for the torque arm mount.
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Originally Posted by 3DFORMULA
Yes, and those 8.5" rears can be built to handle 9sec big blocks racing every weekend regularly.
Yeah I have seen an 8 second turbo v6 70 camaro with a 8.5 10 bolt



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