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Old May 5, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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im trying to restore my previously abused 95 trans am (retard i bought it from). the motor is going to be rebuilt hoping to stay with the std bore. if not ill take it to a 355. i need recomendations on how to get 400-450 hp N/A with a t56 transmission. im on a tight budget of around 3500 to rebuild the motor. and put a 9-bolt rearend in. btw if i dont make much sense for right now its because im on a lot of pain meds(had surgery yesterday)
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im trying to restore my previously abused 95 trans am (retard i bought it from). the motor is going to be rebuilt hoping to stay with the std bore. if not ill take it to a 355. i need recomendations on how to get 400-450 hp N/A with a t56 transmission. im on a tight budget of around 3500 to rebuild the motor. and put a 9-bolt rearend in. btw if i dont make much sense for right now its because im on a lot of pain meds(had surgery yesterday)
355 rebuild + top end to get 400-450 rwhp + 9" > 3500.

Your goal is VERY unrealistic. Look to spend ~2,500 on a decent top end, ~2000 for a quality 355 build, and 2000+ for a 9". You also have to factor in the cost of a tune, injectors, and full bolt-ons if you don't have them alreadly. You also will need a new clutch as your stocker won't stand a chance. Those are number that I pulled out of no where, but you can see that you will not get it done with your budget.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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its the pain meds... gotta be lol im sure he meant a few thousand more
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Old May 5, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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ok if thats unrealistic. i have axcess to a 9 BOLT its an aussie rearend in a 3rd gen camaro. and plenty of 9 inchers laying around at a friends house. anyways.... my whole goal is NOT to dyno race this car its to put it on the track. what i want is high tens low 11's give me a list of what i need to do to get it there.
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more vicoden.......
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ok if thats unrealistic. i have axcess to a 9 BOLT its an aussie rearend in a 3rd gen camaro. and plenty of 9 inchers laying around at a friends house. anyways.... my whole goal is NOT to dyno race this car its to put it on the track. what i want is high tens low 11's give me a list of what i need to do to get it there.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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You want high 10s for $3500? Using a rear that's equally weak as a 10-bolt?

Before you spend ANY money, you need to research exactly what it takes to get into the 10s. First and foremost, more money.
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Hmm high 10s with a car+3500?? yea its called a gutted notchback 302
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nitrous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jk i think you can do it. you just need a little more cash and a little more research. at least your asking questions, very good start
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Old May 5, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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Hope you don't mean NA.

You need to multiply your funds quite a bit to come close to 10s NA, especially stock cubes.

OT: Can I have some of those meds you're on???
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oh dear. . . lmao tuesday i still had morphine in my system sorry guys. i like the heads though that will help my fiance said ok. lol bottom end ill go a different route with different parts. and a turbo 350 instead of the t56. the 3500 was the low end of just the motor build for right now. im doing this to shut a ricer at work up. has 13k into his eclipse says it does high 10s. and no way a v8 can come close to beating him with less than 10k in the motor.
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Old May 8, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 97badass
im trying to restore my previously abused 95 trans am (retard i bought it from). the motor is going to be rebuilt hoping to stay with the std bore. if not ill take it to a 355. i need recomendations on how to get 400-450 hp N/A with a t56 transmission. im on a tight budget of around 3500 to rebuild the motor. and put a 9-bolt rearend in. btw if i dont make much sense for right now its because im on a lot of pain meds(had surgery yesterday)

They must have given you some good ****. You would change your mind if I told you how much I have in my 383 its kinda depressing then I go drive it and everythings better with a 355 would be lil cheaper but not much.

PS send me some codones in the mail.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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so with the parts listed and an intake to match which cam should i use if i plan to add nitrous later?
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400RWHP LT1 is rather easy with good short block, decent heads and cam and standard bolt ons.

450RWHP is a great deal more difficult and will require big *** heads and cam as well as the other stuff. Stroking it will help there too. Big bucks here.
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Sorry to resurrect this from the dead, but I had a question along the same line. Can you get 400 rwhp without tearing into the bottom end N/A? With all bolt ons, H/C/I, full exhaust, injectors to support, etc. can it be at least close without tearing into the bottom end?
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Sorry to resurrect this from the dead, but I had a question along the same line. Can you get 400 rwhp without tearing into the bottom end N/A? With all bolt ons, H/C/I, full exhaust, injectors to support, etc. can it be at least close without tearing into the bottom end?
Yeah a lot of people have done it and had good success, you are playing games with the stock pistons and bearings though.
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I figured it would be pushing the bottom end, I just wanted to try and get there on top end alone for as long as possible before having my car down for a year whilst I try and rebuild the motor and get it back in the car. I can do bolt on and top end stuff in car in a weekend or so...overhauling the motor, not so much :-p

Plus, if I can get to 400 without bottom end work, I can stretch it a bit more into the 450 range hopefully when the time comes to do the rest.
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stock pistons aren't a limiting factor at 400rwhp, but the main limiting factor in a stock LT1 factor is the rod bolts which can stretch at excess rpms which are usually nessecary with the amount of rpm needed to be spun to make those numbers
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