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Old May 26, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Thanks for making my day. It's always a good day when exposing extravagant lies like the lame story you threw together to protect a hack who destroyed your engine.
Old May 26, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tireburnin
And Lloyd didn't "fix" anything, as I understand it (and the results support that). He had a light port job along the lines of a clean up and smoothing. lloyd told him the heads would be fine to port and to send them over. Seems like poor judgement to work on something that could end up poorly for the buyer.
As you understand it? Results? Have you seen the heads? Are there pictures of the head floating around somewhere that show the work previously done? Again, not saying you, but most of the time AI fanboys want others to produce factual data/results yet don't supply any of their own except pictures off the AI website.
Old May 26, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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You state you and two sponsors from this site concluded valves contacted the pistons causing damage. Once again the question must be posed, why is LE then responsible for having to send you new heads over cracked piston rings?
It is possible that his PTV issue had nothing to do with his ring issue. Last I checked Lloyd doesn't install pistons or build shortblocks.

In either case, it's not my setup, but if it was and I got a set of heads that had been milled too much I would want new heads as well versus having to deal with intake alignment issues, compression ratio variances versus my planned build, PTV issues causing me to have to run a higher quench than planned, flycutting pistons or getting new pistons ($$$), etc. If I had to tear my motor apart I would take the oppurtunity to change heads too.
Old May 26, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tireburnin
If the person you are paying for thier expertise RECOMMENDS a part to you, I don't fault anyone who relies upon such suggestions. Should he have measured? Yes. Have we all done the same thing 1000 times? Yes

And there are more setups, at the exact same time SD had his problems a guy on the Impalla forums had the EXACT same issue.
You are paying for a H/C package. Lloyd has no idea how much someone's deck has been milled or what set of gaskets the guy is using. I'm not sure how you can build a motor based on what someone else says. Someone else isn't building the motor, the owner was. If you can't/don't build it correctly you can't blame someone else.

There are more setups? Some guy on the Impala forum? Info? No details sounds about par for the course around here.
Old May 26, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ulakovic22
It is possible that his PTV issue had nothing to do with his ring issue. Last I checked Lloyd doesn't install pistons or build shortblocks.

In either case, it's not my setup, but if it was and I got a set of heads that had been milled too much I would want new heads as well versus having to deal with intake alignment issues, compression ratio variances versus my planned build, PTV issues causing me to have to run a higher quench than planned, flycutting pistons or getting new pistons ($$$), etc. If I had to tear my motor apart I would take the oppurtunity to change heads too.
Finally a post worth replying too. Which seemed to be the issue with my heads. Lloyd took care of me like I figured he would. He is one heck of a nice guy.
Old May 26, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Holy crap I missed alot better start reading!!
Old May 26, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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Finally a post worth replying too. Which seemed to be the issue with my heads. Lloyd took care of me like I figured he would. He is one heck of a nice guy.
That is one heck of a nice thing to do- take responsibility for a mistake and make it good. There are huge holes in your story, but I'm pretty sure we've come to a conclusion, and that is you got the wrong set of heads confirmed by two sponsors on this site as well as you and you suffered the consequences and would rather throw yourself under the bus than LE. Very noble of you unless keeping quiet is part of the deal. Hopefully you are getting compensation for LE's mistake.
Thank you once again for making my day.
Old May 26, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Elliott, you don't have to explain anything to this douche bag. All that matters is you get your ride back up and running before July when I come visit
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Old May 26, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Deny deny deny. Hell it worked for OJ. You are saying all of what you wrote in that statement is false?
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Is not true then? So how is it bad piston rings require a new set of heads? You are saying valves did not hit the pistons?

Lloyd has done this with others as well. Seems sometimes his port work could be judged on a Monday thru Friday basis...
Clearly your agenda here is to RIP LE and kick him in the knee caps like is all to common in these types of threds. Elliot knows more about his situation than you do and regardless if LE was at fault or not, the problem has been addressed. Your such a champion referring to him as a "hack" on a public board. It does nothing but speak volumes of your character considering that LE has limited control on how the finished heads are used.

Even if there was piston to valve contact, I lay that at the feet of who built the motor. Ultimately, how the Hell can LE or even AI be responsible for that? LE or even AI just ports the heads per the customers specs but the customer needs to ensure that other problems don't arise as a result of such.

LE does all his work by hand and NOT a CNC, we all know that so there are going to be slight variances through and through. As with any business, there are going to be bad situations that occur on an occasional basis. The real measure of a company is what the company does to remedy situation and ultimately satisfy the customer.

Lloyd did my heads and I could not be happier with the way my motor runs. He helped along the way and still calls to see how its running. I had the opportunity to give LE or AI my business years ago and chose LE because he took a more personal interest during the many discussions on the phone. Still I have no regrets.

WRT to Speed_demon24, the only thing LE did wrong was commit to clean up and further port his already worked over **** back in 2007. I would not blame anybody for turning down a job like that and clearly Speed_demon24 should have disclosed this information when making the disparaging comments and posting the disparaging photos. Another real champion here.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
That is one heck of a nice thing to do- take responsibility for a mistake and make it good. There are huge holes in your story, but I'm pretty sure we've come to a conclusion, and that is you got the wrong set of heads confirmed by two sponsors on this site as well as you and you suffered the consequences and would rather throw yourself under the bus than LE. Very noble of you unless keeping quiet is part of the deal. Hopefully you are getting compensation for LE's mistake.
Thank you once again for making my day.
Even if he chooses to keep quiet, which I dont know one way or the other, its none of your ******* business. If he is, its being done to keep a tool like you from causing trouble.
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Originally Posted by joelster
Hey speed demon. I have a question for you. I got this "anonymous" pm yesterday from someone on here. Care to elaborate on it?



So, if this pm is correct...you had them "ported" somewhere else FIRST, and then you sent them to LE to try to "fix" them? Hrmm..............I guess you must have forgot to mention that.
This has been asked many times in the past with the same results, you would think bert would have learned by now. And the heads were ported when I bought the car, it was 100% stock externally with ported heads, 1.6 rockers, and I believe crane double springs. It was actually a nice supprise when I pulled my intake manifold doing my first cam swap.

Hopefully this clears things up


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LOL! So those heads were butchered and Lloyd did what he could with them? Wow you totally forgot to mention that part. So no wonder the ports were so far off. I cant believe you gave him crap heads to start, & he still made you over 400rwhp then you didnt measure the pushrods causing the premature failure???
That is what I just read right?? Seems everything you 2 guys have said is just total BS now.

They might have flowed like LE2s but that doesnt me he didnt do what he had to, to get them to flow that way.
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Guys, I really am a hack. My real name is Hackmaster5000 I've been sworn in to protect all hackers at any cost.
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
LOL! So those heads were butchered and Lloyd did what he could with them? Wow you totally forgot to mention that part. So no wonder the ports were so far off. I cant believe you gave him crap heads to start, & he still made you over 400rwhp then you didnt measure the pushrods causing the premature failure???
That is what I just read right?? Seems everything you 2 guys have said is just total BS now.
Read the post above yours. It's amazing how easily people fall for bs posted by a banned member
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edited post above yours.
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
edited post above yours.
Man this is too good. Can you not comprehend what this says?

"The port job is not bad and is not a "hack job". It was a nice port job (concentric and ports matched each other) but not much done. "

Here's another email. Here's the important part in bold since you seem to have pretty bad reading comprehension.

"There was not a lot done but there was nothing wrong with what was done also.
Nothing wrong with what was done, just not much done. "




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Typical ai vs le thread....
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
Typical ai vs le thread....
I called for "lock down" on the second reply.
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Originally Posted by Elliott's94Z
Guys, I really am a hack. My real name is Hackmaster5000 I've been sworn in to protect all hackers at any cost.
You have to admit, the way you are going about this is not normal. You lie about your blow-by problem, blaming it on cracked rings. You lie that the problem had anything to do with the heads and now that you've been exposed you try to spin your problem in a different direction.
As stated, you are very loyal and a true friend. Perhaps the next person to have this happen won't be as thoughtful and courteous and go to the lengths you have to protect a hack.
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It was productive for a few posts though! Give it that!



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