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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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So I just had my motor rebuilt. Put in a new cam new pushrods lifters and springs. I was driving home last night and my timing chain snapped. WTF! Where can I get a new timing chain set and timing chain cover? Is there a stronger chain that I can put into the car without modding the motor? The one that snapped was a stock replacement from cloyes.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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The stock unit normally is fine, most inspect the chain and gear for wear during a cam swap. Most likely it was worn.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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I'm sure someone on here has a Timing cover for sale my guess is the cam you put in has a snout for a Opti II set up so heres probably the best bang for the buck http://summitracing.com/parts/LUN-93094/?image=large better and cheaper then the GM performance one I'm sure if you search around you may find that one for cheaper but no promises
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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You need to find out if you did any damage to your valves and pistons. If there is damage it can burn your valves and pistons up costing you far more. The LT1 is an interference engine.
You should do a thorough investigation as to why your chain broke.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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You need to find out if you did any damage to your valves and pistons. If there is damage it can burn your valves and pistons up costing you far more. The LT1 is an interference engine.
You should do a thorough investigation as to why your chain broke.
Yup, there very well may be other damage.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by c4ls7
I'm sure someone on here has a Timing cover for sale my guess is the cam you put in has a snout for a Opti II set up so heres probably the best bang for the buck http://summitracing.com/parts/LUN-93094/?image=large better and cheaper then the GM performance one I'm sure if you search around you may find that one for cheaper but no promises
thats kinda funny though that the picture that is shown is a GM product. Shows the GM stamp and part number on it.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Agreed with posters above, thoroughly check everything. You don't want to put you damaged motor back together for the second time, only to have to tear it down and fix it for a third time...

It wouldn't hurt to get a Cloyes double roller. But you will have to delete your relctor ring and tune out the cps code. You also have to run an EWP to use the double roller. Not to forget you have to clearance the inside of your new timing cover a little. Since you need a new one, it would be best to get a '95 cover that does not have the hole for the CPS sensor.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Thanks guys. It's a big help.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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Crazy, I broke a stock replacement cloyes on my 383 about 4 years ago, ended up bending 6 valves. I only recommend running the pro gear chains now.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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I used the LT4 Timing Kit on my build and it worked fine for me.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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i got mine at advance for 100.00 when i did my rebuild, thats the reason i changed my timing chain.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:46 AM
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Well let me ask this. For a regular timing chain. What brand would you guys recommend? I don't want to have to mod my motor anymore for this ****.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkKnightRider
Well let me ask this. For a regular timing chain. What brand would you guys recommend? I don't want to have to mod my motor anymore for this ****.
For a replacement timing set, the OEM timing set should do you fine.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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I'd still prefer a Roller Chain..that's just me.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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is there such thing as a single roller timing chain? is that the stock replacement? cuz i do NOT want this happening agian.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Yea, the LT4 Timing Kit.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkKnightRider
is there such thing as a single roller timing chain? is that the stock replacement? cuz i do NOT want this happening agian.
The normal LT4 chain (not the extreme duty) is a single roller. I used one and it had an incredible amount of slop in it.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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I had the extreme duty one..it was a single roller.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
The normal LT4 chain (not the extreme duty) is a single roller. I used one and it had an incredible amount of slop in it.
My LT4 ED chain has a decent amount of slop in it too after 20k miles. I'm guessing any "gm" chain will be similar.

And as previously stated in this thread make sure that you find out what caused the chain to snap and make sure the engine isn't damaged.
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I had the extreme duty one..it was a single roller.
It is for clarity sake. There is both a LT4 and a LT4 ED. The regular LT4 chain's links are about the size of a bicycle chain...

Originally Posted by speed_demon24
My LT4 ED chain has a decent amount of slop in it too after 20k miles. I'm guessing any "gm" chain will be similar.

And as previously stated in this thread make sure that you find out what caused the chain to snap and make sure the engine isn't damaged.
The remedy was the sooper dooper oversized crank gear which then yielded about .020 clearance between the cam and crank gear...
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