Who's still going for the Bolt on only record?
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well looks like its gonna be a shoot out between 3rdgen92maro and Tony(camaroracing12) to see who will be the 5th 11sec bolt on LTWON! lol
What all do you have done and what are your times nitrOracing21?
What all do you have done and what are your times nitrOracing21?
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Only mods that can be done are :
Bigger TB
Roller Rockers
CAI of any kind
Headers
Any exhaust if any at all
Any transmission/converter
Any rear end
All suspension mods
Every possible way of weight reduction(tubular kmember, Light weight brakes, plexiglass, fiberglass, and so on...)
Tune
Basically you take a stock longblock from gm and drop it in to a car that has everything that can be done to it. Must have stock LT1 intake, no Lt4's. But then again idk know the official ruling on carb. conversions(there really is no ruling) but if im not mistaken tom cowle had a carb intake when he set the record. I thought i remembered hearing he ran an 11.52 carbed then swapped back to efi to get the 11.48? Could someone please confirm that?
Bigger TB
Roller Rockers
CAI of any kind
Headers
Any exhaust if any at all
Any transmission/converter
Any rear end
All suspension mods
Every possible way of weight reduction(tubular kmember, Light weight brakes, plexiglass, fiberglass, and so on...)
Tune
Basically you take a stock longblock from gm and drop it in to a car that has everything that can be done to it. Must have stock LT1 intake, no Lt4's. But then again idk know the official ruling on carb. conversions(there really is no ruling) but if im not mistaken tom cowle had a carb intake when he set the record. I thought i remembered hearing he ran an 11.52 carbed then swapped back to efi to get the 11.48? Could someone please confirm that?
Yes Tom got a lot of crap and was nobody took him seriously since he did the carb swap and didn't consider that a bolt-on, he then put the EFI back on and spent a lot of time on the dyno getting it dialed in before running the 11.48, must be nice to have a dyno shop sponsor your car...
as for the rules I post this up every time this comes up, the rules are based of the original rules for this shootout as done by GMHTP, see the rulles here (BTW, you will see som familiar names in there, and those guys are still around):
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article1.jpg
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Alot of crap is a good way to put it...
But for the record my car wasn't gutted, it carried all the interior panels, 2 seats, radio with speakers, door bars and all.
It was fun squeazing blood from a turnip and the car was deadly consistant to race as well. I wish the best of luck to all those pursuing this.
But for the record my car wasn't gutted, it carried all the interior panels, 2 seats, radio with speakers, door bars and all.
It was fun squeazing blood from a turnip and the car was deadly consistant to race as well. I wish the best of luck to all those pursuing this.
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Alot of crap is a good way to put it...
But for the record my car wasn't gutted, it carried all the interior panels, 2 seats, radio with speakers, door bars and all.
It was fun squeazing blood from a turnip and the car was deadly consistant to race as well. I wish the best of luck to all those pursuing this.
But for the record my car wasn't gutted, it carried all the interior panels, 2 seats, radio with speakers, door bars and all.
It was fun squeazing blood from a turnip and the car was deadly consistant to race as well. I wish the best of luck to all those pursuing this.
#32
im glad to see there is still interest! i think im gonna go for 11.80 then call it quits and build a budget 383 street car that can run 11.50 on motor and 10.50's on spray. or the hell with it just a 383 that can run 10.50's on motor only
i got a few mods here and there:
madz28 tune
prostars
ls1 driveshaft
SS3600
CPT 4l60e
moroso CAI
Pacesetter Longtubes
true duals dumped
airfoil
160 stat
!front swaybar
!AC
!EGR
!AIR
!front bumper support
!fogs
!rear seats
!passenger seat (track only)
!trunk panels + carpet
thats all i can think of for now but im sure theres more. shes still a street car. drivin in the summer. has complete bone stock suspension, bone stock 3.23's, raceweight is 3245lbs (if the track scale was right last time out) and best pass so far is 12.42 @ 107mph in the summer heat and humidity. i got a sunoco pin on hood waiting to go on but i keep putting it off cuz its gonna be such a bitch to install. im just a 20 year old college kid trying to compete with the big boys on a budget! if i can hit 11's bolt on only or 11.80 (the old longest standing record, the one i orginally intendd to beat) i will be happy and start to build a real motor
i got a few mods here and there:
madz28 tune
prostars
ls1 driveshaft
SS3600
CPT 4l60e
moroso CAI
Pacesetter Longtubes
true duals dumped
airfoil
160 stat
!front swaybar
!AC
!EGR
!AIR
!front bumper support
!fogs
!rear seats
!passenger seat (track only)
!trunk panels + carpet
thats all i can think of for now but im sure theres more. shes still a street car. drivin in the summer. has complete bone stock suspension, bone stock 3.23's, raceweight is 3245lbs (if the track scale was right last time out) and best pass so far is 12.42 @ 107mph in the summer heat and humidity. i got a sunoco pin on hood waiting to go on but i keep putting it off cuz its gonna be such a bitch to install. im just a 20 year old college kid trying to compete with the big boys on a budget! if i can hit 11's bolt on only or 11.80 (the old longest standing record, the one i orginally intendd to beat) i will be happy and start to build a real motor
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Yes Tom got a lot of crap and was nobody took him seriously since he did the carb swap and didn't consider that a bolt-on, he then put the EFI back on and spent a lot of time on the dyno getting it dialed in before running the 11.48, must be nice to have a dyno shop sponsor your car...
as for the rules I post this up every time this comes up, the rules are based of the original rules for this shootout as done by GMHTP, see the rulles here (BTW, you will see som familiar names in there, and those guys are still around):
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article1.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article2.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article3.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article4.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article5.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article6.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article7.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article8.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article9.jpg
as for the rules I post this up every time this comes up, the rules are based of the original rules for this shootout as done by GMHTP, see the rulles here (BTW, you will see som familiar names in there, and those guys are still around):
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article1.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article2.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article3.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article4.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article5.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article6.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article7.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article8.jpg
http://www.1slowformula.com/images/bolt-on_article9.jpg
They did have a noise requirement though.
Would headers through an open Y pipe have passed those noise requirements, or were you flexing the rules that you so adamantly defend?
#34
I was goin for it... but meh i lost interest in drag racing. i was looking at 12.50's with full exhaust, gears, stall and cai, but i sold my drag tires to keep me from blowing money on it. i really didnt' feel like doing a bunch of weight reduction either, it's my daily driver. no need to sacrifice safety for some stupid timeslip.
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Seems to me that you were the one giving Tom all of the crap because you thought he didn't follow the rules in your magazine article. I haven't read it lately, but I don't remember anything stating that an induction change was not allowed. After all a intake manifold swap has always been considered a bolt-on.
BTW, not sure where this attack is coming from, but please get your facts, before spouting off, I have talked to Tom many times and I was never giving him crap, I did want to let eveyone know he got the record because and he used an out of the box GM intake and since it was a carb intake he switched to carb, we should just note that he had the carb. He then went out to shove it in the face of all those "OTHER" people, and put the EFI stuff back on, tuned it, and did even better, and if anything that just proved there was no advantage over the carb setup...
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im glad to see there is still interest! i think im gonna go for 11.80 then call it quits and build a budget 383 street car that can run 11.50 on motor and 10.50's on spray. or the hell with it just a 383 that can run 10.50's on motor only
i got a few mods here and there:
madz28 tune
prostars
ls1 driveshaft
SS3600
CPT 4l60e
moroso CAI
Pacesetter Longtubes
true duals dumped
airfoil
160 stat
!front swaybar
!AC
!EGR
!AIR
!front bumper support
!fogs
!rear seats
!passenger seat (track only)
!trunk panels + carpet
thats all i can think of for now but im sure theres more. shes still a street car. drivin in the summer. has complete bone stock suspension, bone stock 3.23's, raceweight is 3245lbs (if the track scale was right last time out) and best pass so far is 12.42 @ 107mph in the summer heat and humidity. i got a sunoco pin on hood waiting to go on but i keep putting it off cuz its gonna be such a bitch to install. im just a 20 year old college kid trying to compete with the big boys on a budget! if i can hit 11's bolt on only or 11.80 (the old longest standing record, the one i orginally intendd to beat) i will be happy and start to build a real motor
i got a few mods here and there:
madz28 tune
prostars
ls1 driveshaft
SS3600
CPT 4l60e
moroso CAI
Pacesetter Longtubes
true duals dumped
airfoil
160 stat
!front swaybar
!AC
!EGR
!AIR
!front bumper support
!fogs
!rear seats
!passenger seat (track only)
!trunk panels + carpet
thats all i can think of for now but im sure theres more. shes still a street car. drivin in the summer. has complete bone stock suspension, bone stock 3.23's, raceweight is 3245lbs (if the track scale was right last time out) and best pass so far is 12.42 @ 107mph in the summer heat and humidity. i got a sunoco pin on hood waiting to go on but i keep putting it off cuz its gonna be such a bitch to install. im just a 20 year old college kid trying to compete with the big boys on a budget! if i can hit 11's bolt on only or 11.80 (the old longest standing record, the one i orginally intendd to beat) i will be happy and start to build a real motor
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Im shooting for the elusive 11.47
Ive got quite a few mods so far aswell. Still have to get the 1.6 rockers and a tune.
Heres what i got so far
-Th350 RVMB
-Yank 4k Stall
-Pacesetter LTs
-3" Xpipe dumped bullets
-SLP LID
-CSR EWP
-MSD coil
-QA1 R Series Coil overs
-Comp Eng Adj Rear Shocks
-Adj LCA's
-Weld Prostars/275/60/15 ET Street Radials
-!Entire HVAC/Heat
-!Front and rear bumpers
-!Front Sway and mounts
-!Power Steering
-!Accessory bracket
-!Air Pump
-!EGR/EVAP canister in the rear
-!Cruise Control
-!Inner Fender metal/Plastic Liners
-!Wipers/Washer bottle
-!ABS
-!Front/Rear Seats (Added Summit Race Seat)
-!All Carpet
-!Passenger Airbag
-!Rear Seat mounts/Arm Rests/Seat belt mounts
-!Rear Seat Belts
-!Headliner/Sunvisors
-!Door Bars
-!All plastic trim pieces
-!Radio/all speakers/cd changer/amp
-!Spare/Jack
-!Fire Wall Insulation
-!Front Frame Horns
-!Gutted Under hood harness
Thats all i can think of at the moment. Im sure im leaving some stuff out. Do you guys think i have a shot at 11s??
Ive got quite a few mods so far aswell. Still have to get the 1.6 rockers and a tune.
Heres what i got so far
-Th350 RVMB
-Yank 4k Stall
-Pacesetter LTs
-3" Xpipe dumped bullets
-SLP LID
-CSR EWP
-MSD coil
-QA1 R Series Coil overs
-Comp Eng Adj Rear Shocks
-Adj LCA's
-Weld Prostars/275/60/15 ET Street Radials
-!Entire HVAC/Heat
-!Front and rear bumpers
-!Front Sway and mounts
-!Power Steering
-!Accessory bracket
-!Air Pump
-!EGR/EVAP canister in the rear
-!Cruise Control
-!Inner Fender metal/Plastic Liners
-!Wipers/Washer bottle
-!ABS
-!Front/Rear Seats (Added Summit Race Seat)
-!All Carpet
-!Passenger Airbag
-!Rear Seat mounts/Arm Rests/Seat belt mounts
-!Rear Seat Belts
-!Headliner/Sunvisors
-!Door Bars
-!All plastic trim pieces
-!Radio/all speakers/cd changer/amp
-!Spare/Jack
-!Fire Wall Insulation
-!Front Frame Horns
-!Gutted Under hood harness
Thats all i can think of at the moment. Im sure im leaving some stuff out. Do you guys think i have a shot at 11s??
#40
Im hunting for the record as well. Just broke 12.6's on friday. Still need to do rockers, TB, EWP and all the front susepension. My race weight is about 3100. Im 155.
Last edited by OddballLt1; 07-20-2009 at 03:34 PM.