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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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I'm wondering can you run stock size pushrods w/ the Comp R lifters?
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I used them awhile back with stock length pushrods. I also measured them from roller to cup and they were the same dimensions of my stock lifters (within .05").
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If your engine is stock with no modification to alter the distance between the rocker and lifter then yes you will be fine. Just heed the adjusting requirements.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
If your engine is stock with no modification to alter the distance between the rocker and lifter then yes you will be fine. Just heed the adjusting requirements.
what requirements you talking about?
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sepno77
what requirements you talking about?
Deck height, piston height, head gasket, head cc, etc.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Deck height, piston height, head gasket, head cc, etc.
Just to add to that, valve stem length.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sepno77
what requirements you talking about?
I have them, and they're a PITA to get set correctly, so to speak. I spoke with a Comp tech rep, and he was ADAMANT that you add no more than 1/8 turn of preload. He was also adamant that you don't set them with the car running, as most of us do...(you know, get them close, fire up the motor, back them off till they click, slowly bring to "zero lash", the point where the get quite, then go 1/8 turn more)

Here's my issue...The heads are aluminum, the block is iron, I think the lifters are some form of steel, as is the cam. They all expand at different rates, and getting the lash set accurately (because the tech rep said is it IMPERITIVE for correct operation)at full operating temperature is an insane balancing act. I wound up doing it two different times, for various, unrelated issues. The one thing I've noticed is that they are "clickey" but the Comp rep says that it's normal.

Long story short, the Comp rep says to set them by hand, feeling the "zero lash" point by the spinning pushrod method, with the engine off, and probably cold. I did this the very first time I installed them and they were really loud. The last time I set them, I initially got them close, fired up the engine, let it FULLY warm up, then set them with the engine running, as described above.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Never heard of any of these issues with LS7 lifters.
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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Sounds like a real PITA so ill just stay away. Thanks for all the replys.
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Never heard of any of these issues with LS7 lifters.
Probably not, however I've had these Comp "Rs" for about 5 years, and I doubt that the LS7s were available back then.
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Spinning the pushrod almost always results in way too tight for valvetrasin newbies. With a polylock like you will have on the roller rockers you are undoubtedly using with these lifters you can just spin the nut down till it contacts the rocker using no force.

The spin the pushrod thing might have some slight merit when used with stock rockerarm nuts since you can't just spin them down by finger. Even then though with oily sockets in the lifter and rocker there is a fair amount of pressure on that pushrod before you feel any drag spinning it. IMO that method shouyld be ignored completely causes a LOT more trouble for folks than it is worth.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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i agree spinning the pushrod isnt consistant, i set mine with the engine running.
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
i agree spinning the pushrod isnt consistant, i set mine with the engine running.
Exactly. I get it close, back off each poly lock. Then finger tighten it until it contacts the rocker flush, then I add my 1/2 turn of preload and lock the poly lock with the allen set screw. Then I repeat 15 times.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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I would not try that with the Comp Rs they are very finicky, overadjust while running and you will break stuff.

I always set them cold with the engine off, never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
I would not try that with the Comp Rs they are very finicky, overadjust while running and you will break stuff.

I always set them cold with the engine off, never had a problem.
I understand completely, but two things define "cold" when I work on the car. Cold "A" is when I have the car off the road for the winter, and I'm in a cold-assed, 20-30 degree garage. Cold "B" is the middle of summer, and the ambient temp is 70 degrees, the engine, it's components and coolant are also 70 degrees, but by GM's definition, the engine is "cold".

To my experience, setting the valve lash in scenario "A" doesn't give accurate adjustments, however it was the way I first set my "CompRs". I'm reasonably certain that's why they were pretty loud when I started driving the car in summer temps.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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I have only used stock lifters which have a really wide range of reasonable adjustment. By cold I mean -10f to +90f I have adjusted stock lifter in those extremes and had no troubles. I HATE working on cars when it is below zero but a couple years ago I took on a charity case and ended up yanking an engine and doing a cheap rebuild on a knocker, literally pulled the engine at -14f.

Unpon further thought the Comp Rs I would probably do cold, warm up the engine under light useage and redo since their range of proper adjustment is so narrow.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
....I HATE working on cars when it is below zero but a couple years ago I took on a charity case and ended up yanking an engine and doing a cheap rebuild on a knocker, literally pulled the engine at -14f.

Been there, done that.....it sucks!!


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