"cam only" horsepower record?
01-07-2010, 01:54 PM
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c'mon man 345??? were not talking about A4 cars that have a cc306. OP's car has an M6. they just dyno so much different. he should at least put down 370/380 IMO. but as already stated, a dyno is just a tuning tool anyways Last edited by badfbodyz; 01-07-2010 at 02:32 PM.
01-07-2010, 04:13 PM
#83
If cam-only manual LT1's with cc306's put down 370-380rwhp on average, everybody would be running that cam. They typically will do 345-360rwhp from what I have seen in a manual and some upwards of 365-370rwhp, not bad for an old grind on lazy lobes however. All dynos are different so numbers will vary but it's fair to assume mid 300's with a manual LT1 and a cc306. Just setting the facts straight so someone doesn't buy a cc306 expecting to put down 370-380rwhp with bolt-ons.
but i am interested to see what his car puts down 
01-08-2010, 04:16 PM
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I would throw in my 2 cents and say that big peaky cams with big numbers do not make you fast. hell, the crane227 held the record for a long time. In my years, this includes building gen1 and genIII and IV motors, big is not better. I have always been faster than guys with BIG nasty cams and get much better mileage too.
01-08-2010, 05:50 PM
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And those people apparently aren't willing to realize we're not LS1's LOL.
Yeah that car was definetly SETUP right. I believe he later stuck a nasty custom grind in there and went quite a bit faster.
I think that guy is trying to get at how alot of people overlook power "under the curve" and always focus on peak power when that's not necessarily the right way to think.
Yeah that car was definetly SETUP right. I believe he later stuck a nasty custom grind in there and went quite a bit faster.
I think that guy is trying to get at how alot of people overlook power "under the curve" and always focus on peak power when that's not necessarily the right way to think.
02-18-2010, 08:32 PM
#92
like i said before, i do not like drag racing too much so i will not make any great et's. If i were to drag race i would be more concerned about my mph. right now i am trapping 110 on a 2.3 60'.
I will be doing whatever it takes to try to reach this goal. If it soon becomes obvious that its not going to happen, so be it and i will quit.
What i will be doing is: 30 or 36 lb. injectors, racetronix fuel pump and harness kit, finish bolt ons (throttle body, ewp, roller timing chain, etc.), cut outs, and a dyno tune.
If that will not put me there i will stop.
I will be doing whatever it takes to try to reach this goal. If it soon becomes obvious that its not going to happen, so be it and i will quit.
What i will be doing is: 30 or 36 lb. injectors, racetronix fuel pump and harness kit, finish bolt ons (throttle body, ewp, roller timing chain, etc.), cut outs, and a dyno tune.
If that will not put me there i will stop.
02-18-2010, 10:58 PM
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I will say that's prob. going to be a neg. also on the 400 rwhp w/stock heads. Hell my cc306 93' ta only pulls 320 at the wheels, granted it's a auto w/a fuddle 3800 stall w/373's. but I have the works, bigger inj. holley 58mm t.b./stage 2 ported stock heads w/bigger valves. full exhaust/LT's. 1.6rr's,walbro/adj. fpr, ram air intake.ported intake,ign. everything but a electric wp,and udp.The worst mod I ever did to my ta is by far the way to big cam that I have to rev. the **** out of it to get any power. So I set the rev. limiter to 6,000 just so the car will stay alive w/160,000mi. on it. But I do wish you luck. Let us know how it turns out.
02-19-2010, 01:20 PM
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Hell my cc306 93' ta only pulls 320 at the wheels, granted it's a auto w/a fuddle 3800 stall w/373's. but I have the works, bigger inj. holley 58mm t.b./stage 2 ported stock heads w/bigger valves. full exhaust/LT's. 1.6rr's,walbro/adj. fpr, ram air intake.ported intake,ign. everything but a electric wp,and udp.The worst mod I ever did to my ta is by far the way to big cam that I have to rev. the **** out of it to get any power. So I set the rev. limiter to 6,000 just so the car will stay alive w/160,000mi. on it. But I do wish you luck. Let us know how it turns out.
02-19-2010, 04:44 PM
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02-19-2010, 10:37 PM
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Im not sure on the stall being locked or unlocked. I know I have the rev. limiter set at 6,000rpm's. So im prob. losing some hp there.
I made the mistake of wanting a good lope to it, so I went with a big donkey dick cam w/a older profile to it. I should have went with a custom grind.
I don't think there is anything else wrong with the car. about everything on it is new. I know it needs a good tune on it, that could also have been the problem. There's really no shop here in KC that tunes the 93's. Where you have to have a chip burned for it. It's heading to St.Louis in a few months for a good dynotune. When I pulled them numbers I had a amatuer tuner tune it in kc. on his laptop. He did the best he could. It doesn't run too bad, I think it should put down 350rwhp on a good tune.
Oh yeah since I don't have a pic. of my ta in my sig. here are a few. She's a rare 93' sunfire yellow ta.
Here is the engine. Like I said there is alot of bolt-on's on this car.
I was in the process of putting on a new pcv valve, that is why the hose is off of the pass. side vc.
I would think he could get maybe 375 out of it, but 400 is quite abit.
Last edited by 06blackGTO; 02-19-2010 at 10:46 PM.
