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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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I have the opportunity to pick up a TH400 in full working order for a very decent price (its a steal to be honest) and since my 4L60E is already clunking and clattering, I was thinking of installing this transmission instead of a rebuild that would cost me a lot more.

What changes would I need to make to my car to be able to swap it in?

With a dead opti, I might even finally make the jump to carb along with the transmission swap.

What stall would go well with my CC503?
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:38 AM
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If you go to the transmissions section there is alot of info about it in the stickies and threads. I did the swap to a th350 and love it. I would go with no less than a 3600rpm stall but I guess it all depends on what you are doing with the car and what you consider tolerable for driving it will differ from person to person.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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you need to think about gear ratio going from a 4 speed to a 3 will bring up your crusing rpm
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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Do it and never look back!
you will need a bigger stall then you probably have, atleast a 4k and what gearing do you have already.
You will need a differ driveshaft, new crossmember with or with out a tq arm relocation bracket.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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I looked on the transmission section, no mention of the length of the drive shaft needed.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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with a cam as small as the cc503 i would not go with a huge converter, i wouldnt go no bigger 3200 at the biggest, plus i would not go with a th400 it will rob you of hp and tq, if you have to switch to a 3 speed go with a th350 trans
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Hell no th400 all the way, build once not twice and for the steal do it. He will have to get a bigger stall due to the fact the gearing is different in the trans's. Yes you will lose a bit of hp,tq but thats the difference between stalls and rear gear as well.. Its for future referances of having the th400 already and then he can go bigger with cams later..
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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I looked on the transmission section, no mention of the length of the drive shaft needed.

I dont think they give a specific length due to the fact prob most cars will be alittle different and should be measured for length once everything is installed.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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I have the stock 2.73, would love to change it but I have an "if ain't broke why fix it" policy.

Any of you gents done the swap?
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by derekderek
I dont think they give a specific length due to the fact prob most cars will be alittle different and should be measured for length once everything is installed.
Well, wouldn't it be the same for an LT1 F-body because all the dimensions are going to be the same for the production line?
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Well, wouldn't it be the same for an LT1 F-body because all the dimensions are going to be the same for the production line?

Yea you would think so but if the frame is tweaked alittle or something isnt lined up right the drive shaft would be alittle longer or shorter. Also with different rear ends the drive shaft would change from car to car. Its one of those things you will have to get custom made anyways so why not wait to measure and double check yourself you know. I agree with you though they should all be pretty much the same I am sure you read this but here it is anyways.


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In most cases the stock driveshaft will need modified. You can buy an aftermarket DS from many vendors online. Or just take you stock one to a local DS shop with the measurments and they will cut it for you. Driveshaft lengths will vary from car to car depending on a couple factors. If the car is using a 12 bolt or a 9" you will see some variances. Also, if you are using different types of motor mounts compared to others (stock, solid, poly or motorplate). It is best to measure the driveshaft for your application.

TH350 with a 9'' tailshaft will work with the stock DS

see Dennys drive shaft for info on measuring
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ADM
I have the stock 2.73, would love to change it but I have an "if ain't broke why fix it" policy.

Any of you gents done the swap?


The swap is really easy if you have everything to do it. It will be even easier since you are already auto. I did it from M6 so I had to change out the pedals shifter run cooler lines all thats stuff and it was still pretty easy to do. Word of advice dont short change yourself on the stall speed like I did at first go big the first time and enjoy.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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you need a crossmember you can get from bmr,and if u get a 9 inch tail housing and shaft the stock drive shaft will work.just did mine few weeks ago.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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I am looking to do this swap as well, tired of the six speed. I picked up a TH400 w/converter(stock) for cheap and in working order. Not sure when I will change over to the auto, I have had the trans for a few years now. I still need to buy everything else for the swap, but there are a few things that need addressed with the car before I swap the tranny.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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What exactly is needed for a swap from a 6speed?
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
What exactly is needed for a swap from a 6speed?
The same as a a4, the trans, driveshaft and crossmember, converter. Then a shifter you will need to. just like the a4s will need.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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The 6 speed cross member will work with a spacer, I believe 1". There is a company that makes them. A tunnel mount torque arm must be used. For my swap, I still need a driveshaft, torque arm, converter, trans cooler, shifter, and get the parts for the electric speedo to work. It's a big list, and that is why it's on the back burner for now.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
What exactly is needed for a swap from a 6speed?
Yea pretty much the same as a A4 conversion just add pedals tranny cooler with lines flywheel and a plate to cover the hole where your stick shift is. If you use a TH350 with the 9" tailshaft the stock drive shaft will work. I imagine it might drop acouple pounds also going from M6 to TH350. I am going to have to research that.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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My TH350 was significantly lighter than my 4L60..
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
My TH350 was significantly lighter than my 4L60..
I kick myself in the Butt now for not weighing it when I had everything out. I know the M6 seemed heavier than the TH350 but who knows. Plus the TH350 is so much easier to rebuild if it should ever go out I imagine the TH400 wouldnt be much harder. Theres almost nothing to it and parts are pretty cheap for it.
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