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Old 01-19-2010, 08:26 PM
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Got a friend wanting to bump his Compression up a bit, he "wants" 11.1:1.
Can he just swap headgaskets while he's porting heads, or will he need to mill also?
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He'll need to mill the head and use the .026 MG head gasket or the .028 Impala head gasket and that should get him close to 11:1.
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Originally Posted by Green3spd
Got a friend wanting to bump his Compression up a bit, he "wants" 11.1:1.
Can he just swap headgaskets while he's porting heads, or will he need to mill also?
thanks
Kris
If he's polishing the combustion chamber he will need to mill the heads because a gasket alone won't be enough. He will gain 1-3cc in the heads after cleaning up the chambers, which won't lower compression much but it's a factor. After doing the chambers he should cc and then decide how much he wants milled.
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^ what he said. i cleaned up my heads .015" and im running the .026" head gaskets. idk my exact compression but im atleast at 11:1
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Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT
^ what he said. i cleaned up my heads .015" and im running the .026" head gaskets. idk my exact compression but im atleast at 11:1
X2, milling and gaskets should do it.
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That's what I had with the LT1 I had Kris.. then again I had Forged Pistons too..I milled the Heads .006, ran with Felpro #1074 Gaskets.
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no milling required. all other things remaining equal, going from the stock .038 gasket to a .015 gasket will get you to 11.1
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Who makes that .015 Gasket?

Personally if I'm yanking the Heads I would get them milled for true..
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That's a thin *** head gasket.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Who makes that .015 Gasket?
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Felpro is one maker:
http://www.summitracing.com/search/?...%20chevy&dds=1

It's for a Gen1 SBC, but all you have to do is use your old LT1 gasket as a template and cut out the holes for the reverse cooling.

Yes, it's a thin gasket, so I suggest checking both heads and block for flatness if you decide to use it. If all is well, it's as good as, if not tougher, than a thicker gasket. If all is not perfectly flat, then mill the heads slightly, and still use it. With a decent size cam and tight quench, 11.5 is not too much CR on an LT1.
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Good info. I've never heard of this done before. I wonder how durable it would be compared to the .026 head gasket.
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Originally Posted by sepno77
Good info. I've never heard of this done before. I wonder how durable it would be compared to the .026 head gasket.
Like I said, if your deck and head surfaces are flat, it's as good or better. It's an embossed steel shim; not much to fail!
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yep felpros good old shim gasket..there tuff..i hit it with a 300 shot more then a couple times and they never pushed.
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Originally Posted by bowtienut
Like I said, if your deck and head surfaces are flat, it's as good or better. It's an embossed steel shim; not much to fail!
I had the shim gasket on my old Pontiac. I trust it with iron heads, but I have never tried it with aluminum. My concern would be the added heat transfer from the block to the heads by a steel shim and the expansion qualities of aluminum. But if there are people here who have had no problems with it on an LT1 I guess it must be OK. Good to know.
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Originally Posted by Speedy
I had the shim gasket on my old Pontiac. I trust it with iron heads, but I have never tried it with aluminum. My concern would be the added heat transfer from the block to the heads by a steel shim and the expansion qualities of aluminum. But if there are people here who have had no problems with it on an LT1 I guess it must be OK. Good to know.
Good with Aluminum heads also. The heads are the source of the heat in an engine. The more heat transfer to the block (to the water jacket) the better.
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i thought a stock gasket was .39..anyways...going to the shim gasket will get you from 10.54 to 11.42 comp
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sorry just seen i put the wrong info above stock is 10.4-1 and with shim makes you 11.25-1
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Wow.. so using the SBC .015 gasket will give a stock LT1 11.25.1?

I may do this to mine also!
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Default Thats a good thing to know!!!

This should make my lt louder! I'd mill my heads but i plan on going with different piston's in the future and i'd like to leave my piston option open.
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Don't guess, calculate.

Use one of the compression ratio calculators on the internet. Punch in your current engine specs and your current head gasket thickness. Don't GUESS on the gasket thickness, be precise, look it up if you don't know what it is. Your stock head gasket may be as thick as .051", but check to verify.

Then click on the calculate button and once the calculations are completed, make sure the CR number matches what the factory CR spec is. That's your starting point.

Now, change ONLY the head gasket thickness in the engine spec area and re-calculate.

Doing it that way will tell you how much CR you'll gain with just a head gasket change. If your combustion chambers are 54 ccs, and if your stock head gasket is .051" and if your stock CR is 10.4:1 you can get 11.1:1 with only a swap to a .026 head gasket according to the calculations I just ran.

Verify by running the numbers yourself.

Jake

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