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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 01:05 AM
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Hey whats up guys? It's snowing so I've been cooped up inside and bored. I'm going to want to do about 2 grand of mods on my lt1 this summer. I want to do the lt4 kit, but that i heard is not worth the money. Hot cams? What are your opinions on that. I'm definately putting on some longtube headers, not going true duals (cops will pull me over constantly), maybe magnaflow cat back, a new MAF, I am looking into a rear mounted turbo. Is that any good? Anyone use one, couldnt find the brand STS through the search function.
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if I wanted to do a turbo or twin turbo set up which mods would u recommend i upgrade at the same time?
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 01:23 AM
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 02:13 AM
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sounds like you don't really know whatyou want to do.

What mods do you have already?

I suggest bolt ons then a camm swap for starters.
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tell us a little about yur car...miles/tranny/ect.

Start by fixing any existing problems/opti/plugs and wires/fuel pump/ect.

My favorite parts for a stock car would include:

TIRES! TIRES! TIRES!-get some Nitto 555R or M/T ET Street Drag radials
GMMG chambered catback
Long tube Hooker, Jet Hot, or Pacesetter Headers
Off road Y pipe/cutout (ORY)
Lingenfelter Cold Air intake
PCMforless mail order tune
1.6 Roller Rockers
BMR/UMI point subframe connectors
and I'd ditch the EGR/AIR system (state laws/enforcement pending)

Honestly, that'd all be over $2000 probably but it'd be a very good start.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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By the sounds of it, spend $2k on well thought out bolt-ons and you'll see huge improvement.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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TIRES! TIRES! TIRES!-get some Nitto 555R or M/T ET Street Drag radials
GMMG chambered catback
Long tube Hooker, Jet Hot, or Pacesetter Headers
Off road Y pipe/cutout (ORY)
Lingenfelter Cold Air intake
PCMforless mail order tune
1.6 Roller Rockers
BMR/UMI point subframe connectors
and I'd ditch the EGR/AIR system (state laws/enforcement pending)

Honestly, that'd all be over $2000 probably but it'd be a very good start.
This looks like a great starting point for a stock car. Definitely have a well thought out plan first though. For example, if you're serious about a rear mount turbo then your not going to want to buy a catback (among other things, but that's just one example).
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
tell us a little about yur car...miles/tranny/ect.

Start by fixing any existing problems/opti/plugs and wires/fuel pump/ect.

My favorite parts for a stock car would include:

TIRES! TIRES! TIRES!-get some Nitto 555R or M/T ET Street Drag radials
GMMG chambered catback
Long tube Hooker, Jet Hot, or Pacesetter Headers
Off road Y pipe/cutout (ORY)
Lingenfelter Cold Air intake
PCMforless mail order tune
1.6 Roller Rockers
BMR/UMI point subframe connectors
and I'd ditch the EGR/AIR system (state laws/enforcement pending)

Honestly, that'd all be over $2000 probably but it'd be a very good start.
You forgot valve springs, if he does the 1.6rr. I'd wait on those for the cam swap anyway
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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for 2k, get a bigger stall and some gears
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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this is just my .02 if you wanna go fast for cheap..pull the front and rear pumper take out the supports. get some fats and skinnys with good tires. headers and a good cai a tune deff wont hurt. if you want to build a turbo motor the correct way 2k is gonna get your not very far. crank and pistons maybe
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Just remember to think out your options, pick a specific goal, do tons of research, and pick the right for your goals. Otherwise, you can waste a lot of money and time doing things twice.

Do stuff right the first time, and don't cut corners.

I heard a great quote recently:
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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if i had 2 grand to spend, i'd do CAI, full exhaust, stall, gears, and a tune. that'd give you some good improvements. and you'd probably have some leftover too.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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The car is a 94 firebird formula, 125k miles, automatic tranny with "Transmission Perform" button (which is rediculously nice).

I have a cold air intake, i don't know the brand it came with the car. As far as stalls go, how hard is it to put one in and what is a good brand? I don't wanna DESTROY fuel economy, but I'm not a tree hugger. I'm only 16 so, gas money is my only money lol. But this summer I'll get to work a lot and I'll have around 3 grand. I don't wanna put a **** load in the car. I was thinking a ram air intake system with a WS6 hood. and anyone know anything about the LT4??? I kinda wanna do that. Or at least what other heads would be able to handle the new mods. Thanks a lot for your input.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ripfirebird94
The car is a 94 firebird formula, 125k miles, automatic tranny with "Transmission Perform" button (which is rediculously nice).

I have a cold air intake, i don't know the brand it came with the car. As far as stalls go, how hard is it to put one in and what is a good brand? I don't wanna DESTROY fuel economy, but I'm not a tree hugger. I'm only 16 so, gas money is my only money lol. But this summer I'll get to work a lot and I'll have around 3 grand. I don't wanna put a **** load in the car. I was thinking a ram air intake system with a WS6 hood. and anyone know anything about the LT4??? I kinda wanna do that. Or at least what other heads would be able to handle the new mods. Thanks a lot for your input.
Wow, sounds like you have no idea whats going on. Judging by your first post to this post. Bolt-ons dude. Intake/Full exhaust for starters. I really wouldn't be thinking about an LT4 swap if thats what you're implying in this post.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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be nice to him. LT4 heads cam swap is gonna be more then you wanna do brotha plus its not worth the money. do bolt ons and when your ready for a cam just research doing a cam and the supporting mods. dont even bother LT4
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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i've had my lt1 for almost 3 weeks, so ya, i am a newb. Sorry. I know there are helpful guys on here. And by full exhaust u mean headers + y-pipe + cat back correct? or do you mean true duals?
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Originally Posted by rg501
if i had 2 grand to spend, i'd do CAI, full exhaust, stall, gears, and a tune. that'd give you some good improvements. and you'd probably have some leftover too.
Honestly, I think that would be more than 2K in parts unless he goes used. I agree though, after reading his other posts that this is the road I'd recommend.

The Thunder Racing performance package is a decent deal for $530. CAI, Magnaflow, and airfoil. My brother has that on his 1994 Z28 A4 along with Nittos and a 3.42 rear and went 13.5.

If the OP has the transmission performance button then he has 3.23 gears, so I'd move those farther down the list and get the full exhaust, CAI, stall, and drag radial. Should make for a high 12 second car in decent conditions.
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I'd definately start with full bolt ons...
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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I'm getting http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...d=622&pcid=226 first. Thanks for the help.
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Those are some good parts for the money...but have you checked around for different catback sounds? they all sound very different. What do you want yur car to sound like?

here's a couple of quick examples...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1GKd9VRPPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZr8otVR0p0

http://www.gmmginc.net/media/Video/ChamberedExhaust.php
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