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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Sorry if there has been a major thread or something on this since the first ones, but I haven't been around much for a while. Last I knew it looked like it was going to be built but I never really heard anything after that. Anybody know if there was ever any updates?
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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i think they killed it. they made some and they didnt do good in testing so decided to kill the project! not 100% sure tho!
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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I believe all the kids on the internet with no money promised to buy one but when they spoke to distributors and reconsidered tooling costs it became clear that the ACTUAL sales volume would not be there.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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haha, gotta be honest I am kind of "one of those kids" at the moment except for that I never said I would get one as soon as it came out and actually did have every intention of getting one probably in a couple years. Sucks to hear that it didn't really go anywhere.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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I think it would have been great to have but in all honesty I thought from day one it was a bad idea business wise. The market is not there.

Heck most folks struggle to get a decent result out of a stock shortblock, they spread their checking account thinner yet and they will make more compromises in all the worst areas just to have the bigger engine.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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DART block=
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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There were never any made for testing, and the block isn't going to happen.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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So sad. I would have wanted to do this over a LSx swap, but alas... I will stick to the plans of building a big cube LS engine.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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You know a couple years ago a few "LT1 Bowtie" blocks surfaced that had been prototypes. If there actually was a market for a big LT1 block those things would have been sold in a matter of days, they weren't.

There certainly are individuals who genuinely would buy one, BUT not as many as claimed they would have. That is why the project flopped after they spoke to the dealers, the ones on the front line that see no real market in the LT1, not enough of a market to support this kind of R&D outlay anyhow.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Factory block isn't bad, it can hold more power then most will ever make and can actually go more cubes then most know how to take advantage of.
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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Yeah the stock block is for sure a pretty good block. If it wasn't there would probably be a much bigger market for an aftermarket block (one would imagine anyway). Honestly though the thing I was really excited about wasn't so much really even big cube builds as awesome as that would be. I really liked the idea of more options for bore/stroke ratio, especially for high-revving applications. Ah well, too bad but I can understand why it didn't end up working. Now I just need to decide if I'll be using my stock LT1 block or a 6.0 iron block
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we need an aftermarket block to even try and compete with the ls motor
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Originally Posted by 4SFEDZ
we need an aftermarket block to even try and compete with the ls motor
Define "compete" LT powered cars have been driven into the very low 8's...there's plenty of potential in an LT1...
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 4SFEDZ
we need an aftermarket block to even try and compete with the ls motor
That's awesome...
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
You know a couple years ago a few "LT1 Bowtie" blocks surfaced that had been prototypes. If there actually was a market for a big LT1 block those things would have been sold in a matter of days, they weren't.

There certainly are individuals who genuinely would buy one, BUT not as many as claimed they would have. That is why the project flopped after they spoke to the dealers, the ones on the front line that see no real market in the LT1, not enough of a market to support this kind of R&D outlay anyhow.
yeah I remember last year? maybe the year before they sold the last one, the guy who bought it(who is on here) doesn't even plan to make use of its full potential displacement wise

and I'll admit I was another one who said I would buy a dart block one day in the future but didn't claim I would buy it as soon as it was released. owell, it would of been nice for us LTx fans but not so nice for dart, probably would of taken over a decade for them to recoup their expenses and start turning a profit off it.
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
Define "compete" LT powered cars have been driven into the very low 8's...there's plenty of potential in an LT1...
LSX's are in the 6's...

unless they made it with the ability to accept Gen 1 heads there is no use. There isn't a head on the market that could make use of that size block for the LT1.
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Originally Posted by I8ASaleen
LSX's are in the 6's...

unless they made it with the ability to accept Gen 1 heads there is no use. There isn't a head on the market that could make use of that size block for the LT1.
fair enough, but still, how many people are actually going to max out an LT1 realistically? I can see why they didn't build the block. The LT1 motor/block has more potential than most will every use anyway...
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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me and my buddy are starting 2 new builds.we where the going to buy that block
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
Define "compete" LT powered cars have been driven into the very low 8's...there's plenty of potential in an LT1...
never said an ltx cant go fast or make good power, but for now, unfortunately the lsx is superior. how many current 8 sec lt's are there? i hope to be one as soon as my motors done, but not near as many as the ls crowd. and there hasnt even been an 7 sec ltx yet, (hurry up chris)! lol! my point is just that the new block would have givin us more options, and made it easier!

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That's awesome...
whats awesome? you dont think the new block would have helped? i guess more cubes wouldnt help either huh? or the added strength? hmmmm, what was i thinking?
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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The LS has been in production longer and in a LOT more variety of vehicles. That helps it's aftermarket considerably
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