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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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Gizmo knows how to go quick, look at his tricks. This is why I whine so bad about street car vs racecar. Put that engine in my car...12.80's LMAO.

Man you stock eliminator guys know how to do SOOO much with SOOO little. I love Stock and Super Stock.
Old Mar 9, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gregrob
Damn, low 11's, roughly....
So, this car runs low 11's on the stock cam? Based on all of the reading I've done on these boards, I would have figured that to be virtually impossible. Does this car have nitrous on it? It looks like it has a nitrous system in that one pic with the hood up. Are these nitrous times?

The car looks nice. Are you planning on taking it to Beech Bend later this year?
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damn nice job!! great that you got the kids to help out too..now you just have to keep tabs on your race gas and how come your drag wheels keep getting balder mysteriously lmao..
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Originally Posted by BTC
So, this car runs low 11's on the stock cam? Based on all of the reading I've done on these boards, I would have figured that to be virtually impossible. Does this car have nitrous on it? It looks like it has a nitrous system in that one pic with the hood up. Are these nitrous times?

The car looks nice. Are you planning on taking it to Beech Bend later this year?
No nitrous, and it is possible. He just isn't following the herd mentality that every auto needs a 3200-3600 stall and 3.73s or else the world will end.

Contrary to popular belief, you can run bigger gears and not spontaneously explode when the tree goes green .

The whole build is thoroughly documented - there are no big secrets or top-dollar tricks, and it was put together by a bunch of high school kids. I'm sure if it was just his car it would be even quicker .
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
Turbo Action TH-200 with 2.75 first gear and manual forward valve body.

JPT 8" converter. Footbraked to 3000 rpm.

Moser 12-bolt with 4.56 pro gear, aluminum spool and yoke, light weight axles, titanium studs. One quart of oil (track only).
I wonder what my car would do, if I swapped in that set up but with the s60.
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
I really don't understand where you are going with this.
No where and not trying to take away from anything. Just saying weight plays an important part with something like this.
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Based on all of the reading I've done on these boards, I would have figured that to be virtually impossible.
That's exactly why we chose to do this build and make it public. I have often fussed at some of the members in this section for setting limits that don't exist with the platform.


Does this car have nitrous on it? It looks like it has a nitrous system in that one pic with the hood up. Are these nitrous times?
The short answer is NO. The car ran that time during Stock Eliminator eliminations at an IHRA Divisional. If we got caught using nitrous it would probably mean a lifetime ban!


The car looks nice. Are you planning on taking it to Beech Bend later this year?
Thanks. We are talking about bringing it to the Shootout and running the bracket race with it.
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Old Mar 9, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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No where and not trying to take away from anything. Just saying weight plays an important part with something like this.
Weight is only one part of the puzzle. We have spent a lot of time optimizing what we have. Things like alignment, gear set-up, suspension, windage, friction, etc. all play a big part. Tune is a major factor. We picked up four hundreds just by switching to smaller injectors!
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Photo from Saturday.


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I totally agree with what you're saying. Weight is one part, but a huge part. Especially as much as that car has dropped.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
I totally agree with what you're saying. Weight is one part, but a huge part. Especially as much as that car has dropped.
Really. So how much do you feel that it would slow down if it weighed 3500 lbs?
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
Really. So how much do you feel that it would slow down if it weighed 3500 lbs?
well depends.....

Im sure alot of wt is rotaing, probly aluminum drums and light rear end parts. tricked out light weight trans that needs to be freshened evey 20 passes.

Its a race car..... fatboy could put his motor on a dragster and run 8s.....

All I know is this.......... gizmo= runner up. Going to get axed on the tree like you never seen....and I mean chop your head off.....when you chop the head off the body falls. The rest is cake. Your done for.

second place is first loser......thats what your going to be FIRST LOSER LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER


godspeed and good day sir.
Old Mar 9, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mdacton
Im sure alot of wt is rotaing, probly aluminum drums and light rear end parts. tricked out light weight trans that needs to be freshened evey 20 passes.
Bingo! I am actually having a little luck with the 200's lately (fingers crossed).


Its a race car..... fatboy could put his motor on a dragster and run 8s.....
Play nice!


All I know is this.......... gizmo= runner up.
You planning to bring your car down here so that I can fix it for you first?


Good Day to you too!
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
Really. So how much do you feel that it would slow down if it weighed 3500 lbs?
Don't know. Why not conduct an experiement. Either put it back to stock weight or ballast to 3500lbs w/out driver and see what happens. There really no need to get defensive. Like I said, I'm not taking away from what you've done. It's just that regardless how you get the weight out of the car, weight is a key ingredient.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Don't know. Why not conduct an experiement. Either put it back to stock weight or ballast to 3500lbs w/out driver and see what happens. There really no need to get defensive. Like I said, I'm not taking away from what you've done. It's just that regardless how you get the weight out of the car, weight is a key ingredient.
I think that I will just let this one go before I get mad.
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Your trap speed is not enough, i will let you know what my stock 6.0 does with a cam. The last 6.0 we built did 7.3 at 96 MPH at 3450 with driver, 3.42 gears and a 2800 stall.

Mine should be better with a manual trans and 4.30 gears and allot of better parts. Keep in mind this was a carbed 6.0 so we have the old disadvantage, because everyone knows carbs suck.

LOL
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Your trap speed is not enough, i will let you know what my stock 6.0 does with a cam. The last 6.0 we built did 7.3 at 96 MPH at 3450 with driver, 3.42 gears and a 2800 stall.

Mine should be better with a manual trans and 4.30 gears and allot of better parts. Keep in mind this was a carbed 6.0 so we have the old disadvantage, because everyone knows carbs suck.

LOL
Are you trying to be funny too?
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The "trap speed" argument does not apply to these types of cars. Stock Eliminator cars are made to ET period. Gizmo aint concerned one bit with mph.

A Stock Eliminator car is setup to "front half" and do it very effeciently. This car would run 11.20 I would think with no problem.
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His trap speed is just shy of my 400+ rwhp M6, and ET is about .4 faster. Id say thats pretty amazing considering its basically a stock motor and makes 295 peak HP and 292 lbs of torque.

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